Cliff Morrison~The Lizard Sun Band

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Cliff Morrison, son of Jim Morrison

The doors of perception have re-opened:
Information, press, clips, pictures and our CD information
for Cliff Morrison~The Lizard Sun Band featuring:
Cliff Morrison – Vocals
Tim Patrick – Bass
Waylon Krieger – Guitar
Phil George – Drums
Eric Melz – Keyboards
We love you, Jim loves you.

229 thoughts on “Cliff Morrison~The Lizard Sun Band”

      1. Re: FLOYD BOCOX
        lizardsunmusic

        I am Lorraine Widen, CEO and 1/3 owner of Lizard Sun Entertainment. Cliff Morrison is 1/3 owner of Lizard Sun Entertainment.

        Floyd Bocox has stated he is the sole owner of LSE as well as well as the president – WHICH IS NOT TRUE. Floyd resigned his position on December 17th, 2008. His resignation was given because of several acts done by him to sabotage the corporation.

        Floyd Bocox has stated that Al Bowman and Susanna Griffie have acted in a non professional manner which is also NOT TRUE – LA Music Awards was under contract and they fulfilled the contract in a completely professional manner.

        The fact is LA Music Awards and the LA Fame Awards are part of the history of Los Angeles. And the LA Music Awards represent the heartbeat and soul of LA. The industry looks to the Awards as a legitimate source of superior talent – and for the artists, the way to display this talent.

        The claims made by Floyd Bocox have no merit.

        Floyd Bocox has posted harmful and untrue statements on many sites about both the LA Music Awards and Cliff Morrison. Floyd was totally aware of the fact that in 1992 blood was drawn and the DNA was done. Floyd also knew that this was a private matter between Cliff Morrison and the family. But for Floyd Bocox, that wasn’t good enough. He wanted to turn the family’s life into a media circus.

        Floyd has never cared who he hurt or how he hurt them as long as he made the big bucks.

        Floyd tells everyone that he is a pillar of the community and he has three music labels. He boasts about how successful he is. But how he seems to be the only one that knows this.

      2. Re: FLOYD BOCOX CLIFF IS NOT JIMS SON
        Floyd Bocox President for Lizard Sun Entertainment

        Well this week september 18th we go to court for eviction
        from one of my homes! That will be@ the San Pedro court house if any body would like to come! 8:00am I will have a film crew there and if any body would like to say something
        please do, because this will also be posted on you tube!
        If Waylon Kreiger see’s this message i would like to talk to you in person! This has been the most "Drama" dealing
        with this subject! Where all tired of it and i would like to put a end to this! Thank you everybody for your support!
        Floyd Bocox President for Lizard Sun Entertainment Inc.
        : http://www.lizardsunentertainmentinc.com/floydsdisclaimer/disclaimer.htm

    1. Re: Cliff Morrison interview filmed in San Pedro, CA on 09/09/07 by TSF
      John M. Boylan

      : CLIFR, YOUR OLD CELLY FROM L.A. COUNTY LOCL UP. JOHN IN BURBANK CALL ME

    2. Re: Cliff Morrison interview filmed in San Pedro, CA on 09/09/0
      DNA

      : Hi, Cliff fans! You’ll be happy to know that Cliff Morrison, Jim Morrison’s offspring with girlfriend, Lennie Marston, is alive, out-of-prison, off-heroin, and living in San Pedro, CA. Cliff continues to perform & create his own music style, and has a brand new album out this month (09/07) called "Color of People" on his own Lizard Sun record label! This multi-talented musician caught up with "The Sherwood Forest," an arts & entertainment press series on youtube, operator11, livevideo, and local Charter Comm. station, LBCTv.org: 65, 69, or 95. I produced & directed Cliff’s post-performance interview right after a Warner Grand Theatre show on Sept. 9th, 2007. TPS radio sponsored a Big Red Bus tour from Long Beach Marina to San Pedro’s Tri-Arts Festival on 6th/Mesa which I was on. We mingled after the festival near Sacred Grounds coffeehouse, and met Bruce Smythe at his Hair Art Studio through mutual friend, Derrick, right across the street. Derrick & Bruce heard about my interview series, and so, after hair artistry, interview & therapy session with Bruce, he suggested I hang around for some real rock history in the making! So, I reboarded the B.R.B., and then returned to S.P. a couple of hours later to find Bruce, Derrick (local artist), and Cliff Morrison in The Hair Art Studio again! Mo Power (Long Beachin with Mo), and KaRI (TPS Radio) were also on-hand. I filmed Mo on my handy digital camcorder, as she asked Cliff some post-show, pre-record release inquiries. You may check out Cliff’s album’s on http://www.myspace.com/cliffmorrison, and the 2 interview clips with some of his latest selections from "Color of People" album are posted on: http://www.myspace.com/thesherwoodforest
      : http://www.youtube.com/thesherwoodforest
      : http://www.livevideo.com/thesherwoodforest

      : I hope this helps to clear up all the fuss regarding Cliff’s personal dramas, and proves his legitimacy to the Morrison heir and entry into rock-progeny’s Hall-of-Fame!
      : His "Lizard Sun Band," sounds very much kin to The Doors music, and all of his exclusive stories & musical talents match what one would call extreme giftedness in the area of singer, writer, and multi-talented artist.

      : Link to Cliff Morrison’s TSF Interview, Part I:
      : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4fi_HUTLKI

      : Thanks!
      : ~ M.L.S.

      :
      : "Rock the Cradle"
      : Maxim, Oct 2005
      : By Erin Schulte
      : Cliff Morrison, 36
      : Who’s his daddy? Jim Morrison
      : Who’s his mommy? Lennie Marston
      : Where they met: Unknown, December 1968
      : Sob story: He says his parents were together about two weeks, but Doors fans don’t buy it. Cliff (born Cliff Marston) released an album, Know Peaking, in the ’90s, but he seems to have fallen off the radar since then. Doors fan Web site message boards put him in Folsom State Prison on carjacking charges.
      : Baby talk: “We walk in the light of our fathers, and not in the shadow.”

      visitor
      Jim Morrison was unable to have children according to the Doors surviving members (Coast to Coast am radio interview 1/24/08).

      They speculate that if he was able to have children there would be many offspring since, after all, he was a rock star and had no trouble reproducing.

      The surviving members of the Doors also have said the Cliff Morrison seems unwilling to undergo DNA testing. I wonder why?

    3. Re: This popular thread has been given its own page :... Megan L. Sherwood
      Megan L. Sherwood

      Hi, Cliff fans! You’ll be happy to know that Cliff Morrison, Jim Morrison’s offspring with girlfriend, Lennie Marston, is alive, out-of-prison, off-heroin, and living in San Pedro, CA. Cliff continues to perform & create his own music style, and has a brand new album out this month (09/07) called "Color of People" on his own Lizard Sun record label! This multi-talented musician caught up with "The Sherwood Forest," an arts & entertainment press series on youtube, operator11, livevideo, and local Charter Comm. station, LBCTv.org: 65, 69, or 95. I produced & directed Cliff’s post-performance interview right after a Warner Grand Theatre show on Sept. 9th, 2007. TPS radio sponsored a Big Red Bus tour from Long Beach Marina to San Pedro’s Tri-Arts Festival on 6th/Mesa which I was on. We mingled after the festival near Sacred Grounds coffeehouse, and met Bruce Smythe at his Hair Art Studio through mutual friend, Derrick, right across the street. Derrick & Bruce heard about my interview series, and so, after hair artistry, interview & therapy session with Bruce, he suggested I hang around for some real rock history in the making! So, I reboarded the B.R.B., and then returned to S.P. a couple of hours later to find Bruce, Derrick (local artist), and Cliff Morrison in The Hair Art Studio again! Mo Power (Long Beachin with Mo), and KaRI (TPS Radio) were also on-hand. I filmed Mo on my handy digital camcorder, as she asked Cliff some post-show, pre-record release inquiries. You may check out Cliff’s album’s on http://www.myspace.com/cliffmorrison, and the 2 interview clips with some of his latest selections from "Color of People" album are posted on: http://www.myspace.com/thesherwoodforest
      http://www.youtube.com/thesherwoodforest
      http://www.livevideo.com/thesherwoodforest

      I hope this helps to clear up all the fuss regarding Cliff’s personal dramas, and proves his legitimacy to the Morrison heir and entry into rock-progeny’s Hall-of-Fame!
      His "Lizard Sun Band," sounds very much kin to The Doors music, and all of his exclusive stories & musical talents match what one would call extreme giftedness in the area of singer, writer, and multi-talented artist.

      Link to Cliff Morrison’s TSF Interview, Part I:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4fi_HUTLKI

      Thanks!
      ~ M.L.S.

      "Rock the Cradle"
      Maxim, Oct 2005
      By Erin Schulte
      Cliff Morrison, 36
      Who’s his daddy? Jim Morrison
      Who’s his mommy? Lennie Marston
      Where they met: Unknown, December 1968
      Sob story: He says his parents were together about two weeks, but Doors fans don’t buy it. Cliff (born Cliff Marston) released an album, Know Peaking, in the ’90s, but he seems to have fallen off the radar since then. Doors fan Web site message boards put him in Folsom State Prison on carjacking charges.
      Baby talk: “We walk in the light of our fathers, and not in the shadow.”

      1. prove it!
        Tom Sebhar

        If you are Jim Morrison’s son I would find any and all ways to legitimize this claim and hold up you father’s name, legacy and reputation. And put the critics to rest.

        1. Audition to be drummer for Cliff Morrison
          Eddie Everett

          Cliff this is Eddie Everett I was in Delano North Kern State Prison I want to be in your band contact me either way at 408 401- 5230 or email [email protected] I’m in the Bay Area I admire the talent of you and your band posted January 5th 2018

  1. hola!!!! alguien por aqui q hable espeñol????
    cannabia

    espero q alguien pueda entenderme , perdon por no usar el traductor , pero creo q no se me entederia como de esta manera, pero mi motivo de entrar a qui es q quisiera saber quien me pude decir donde encontrar las letras de las canciones es q no doy con ellas , ojala alguien se apiade de mi y me conteste jejejeje gracias igualmente

  2. Cliff Saga
    Dave

    I’m a journalist who’s becoming increasingly intrigued by this whole Cliff Morrison saga. Does anyone know when he’s getting out of prison? I think it’s supposed to be around this time, isn’t it? I’ve also read conflicting reports about his identity. One says that his DNA has been tested, that Jim’s parents had it done and have kept the results private, not wanting to create a big deal about it, and that they accept Cliff as their grandson. I’ve read other reports that say they want nothing to do with him. Anyone have an accurate source?

      1. Re: Cliff Saga
        Vince

        : Contact me and I’ll give you what I know. i am the bass player on the first cd

        At that time I was going by Vic. I am still looking for Andrea and Her Mom also if anyone has the info hit me up

  3. A Cliff Morrison story from a few years back
    John Rack

    I’ve played with a drummer friend, Ken Lord, of Torrance, CA, who once was in a band with Cliff Morrison, circa 2000. He let Cliff stay in his converted garage/recording studio. At the time they were recording demos, some of which were engineered by Don DeWitt of ABACA studios, also in Torrance, CA. I heard some of these tapes, and the Cliff’s voice was a dead ringer for Jim Morrison.

    If it’s really true that he is J.M.’s love child son, the fruit don’t fall too far from the tree, in more ways that one.

    Ken Lord has his family at the house, and one day he went to his garage studio with his young son to find Cliff. All he found was a bunch of herion laced tin foils laying around. So he thru Cliff out, who was soon after arrested for heroin possesion somewhere in L.A.

    The recording engineer, Don, told me several record companies were interested in Cliff Morrison, whatever his pedigree, because he can really sing. But the guy is so drug damaged nobody would touch him. Word on the street was Cliff had been put thru rehab by some monied musical interests, but it didn’t take.

    At one point Ken Lord was talking with promoters about doing high profile shows with Cliff around L.A., and Ken had asked my band, BluesTrain, to open these shows for them. But after Cliff’s bust, it all went down the tubes.

    Don’t send me e-mails asking were Cliff is. I don’t know and I don’t care. L.A. is full of talented derelict druggies and boozers, and he’s just another one of them.

    1. Re: A Cliff Morrison story from a few years back
      irishboy

      : I’ve played with a drummer friend, Ken Lord, of Torrance, CA, who once was in a band with Cliff Morrison, circa 2000. He let Cliff stay in his converted garage/recording studio. At the time they were recording demos, some of which were engineered by Don DeWitt of ABACA studios, also in Torrance, CA. I heard some of these tapes, and the Cliff’s voice was a dead ringer for Jim Morrison.

      : If it’s really true that he is J.M.’s love child son, the fruit don’t fall too far from the tree, in more ways that one.

      : Ken Lord has his family at the house, and one day he went to his garage studio with his young son to find Cliff. All he found was a bunch of herion laced tin foils laying around. So he thru Cliff out, who was soon after arrested for heroin possesion somewhere in L.A.

      : The recording engineer, Don, told me several record companies were interested in Cliff Morrison, whatever his pedigree, because he can really sing. But the guy is so drug damaged nobody would touch him. Word on the street was Cliff had been put thru rehab by some monied musical interests, but it didn’t take.

      : At one point Ken Lord was talking with promoters about doing high profile shows with Cliff around L.A., and Ken had asked my band, BluesTrain, to open these shows for them. But after Cliff’s bust, it all went down the tubes.

      : Don’t send me e-mails asking were Cliff is. I don’t know and I don’t care. L.A. is full of talented derelict druggies and boozers, and he’s just another one of them.

  4. Does anyone know Cliff's friend Clay Steel?
    Ken

    I am trying to get in touch with a friend of mine that was once roomates with Cliff right before he was arrested. His name is Clay Reinholt but he goes by the name of Clay Steel. Clay is a drummer / actor and shared a studio with Cliff. Clay introduced us to Cliff when we were visiting the LA area about 6 months before Cliff was arrested and have since lost touch with Clay. If anyone knows how to get ahold of Clay Steel please email me with the info. Thanks, Ken

  5. am cliff ex girlfreind, and i have a tape of a private party of him playing with his band for sale
    caroline

    hello there!
    well i just realised there i alot of people out there that are more fans of the door or cliff then myself,.. i was dating cliff , we actualy got arested together,.. well a long storie,.. am in canada right now,. and i have this tape of him, live in a private party he was making,. there is awesome tunes in there,.. so if you want to buy it, let me know!!
    right me at [email protected]
    bye …
    caroline

  6. Filmmaker Claims Jim Morrison Is Alive In Oregon
    Wild Lizard

    NEW YORK (Wireless Flash) – Here’s news that will light the fire of Jim Morrison fans: A filmmaker claims The Doors’ frontman is alive and raising horses on a ranch in southern Oregon.
    Rodeo photographer Gerald Pitts insists Morrison didn’t die in July of 1971 and he has current photographs and film footage of the rocker to prove it.
    Pitts, who met Morrison in 1998, says the rocker staged his death because of a French conspiracy to kill him, Janis Joplin and Jimi Hendrix with narcotics because they were all Vietnam war protestors.
    These days, Morrison isn’t the drug user he once was, although Pitts says when he goes over to Jim’s house he’ll “maybe have an occasional beer.”
    Now Pitts claims that Morrison is announcing he’s alive, in part, to promote his recent agreement to star in a rodeo shoot-out movie based on events that actually happened to Pitts.

    Please check the new pics out:
    http://www.rodeoswest.com

    1. Re: Filmmaker Claims Jim Morrison Is Alive In Oregon
      JLizard

      Hi,
      I distribute the Rodeo West Motion Picture video which features Jim Morrison as he was alive in 1997 and 1998. I talk to Gerald Pitts on a regular basis as his phone number is listed on the Rodeoswest website. Gerald appeared on the WLUP Jonathan Brandmeier talkshow yesterday and has been interviewed scores of times, including on George Roony’s Coast to Coast Radio, the Wall Street Journal, Rolling Stone and so on. We would really like for Cliff Morrison to see the video but we are not sure how to contact Cliff. Would appreciate any leads. Thanks!

    1. Re: Where is Cliff at this present time.,Soledad,Ca.
      irishboy

      Cliff is at the following mailing address. Cliff Morrison C-T-F- Central C-Wing-116-UP P.O. Box 689 ,Soledad, Ca. 93960

      1. Re: Where is Cliff at this present time.,Soledad,Ca.
        cannabia

        perdonar mi falta de ingles y tampoco tengo un traductor de ingleslo suficientemente bueno para usarlo aqui ahora , pero si hay alguien q pueda responderme se lo a gradeceria en el alma … bueno y mi duda es la siguiente alguien le ha escrito ??? y a alguno le ha contestado ?? bueno saludos a todos desde el norte de españa

    2. Re: Where is Chric at this present time.
      Joe

      Hey, do you know anything about Jim Morrison having a son?
      I was in Memphis talking to Jason D. Williams (Jerry Lee Louis bastard son) and he told me the old lead singer for Mojo Risin, a Doors tribute band, was in reality the son of Jim. His name is Now Chris Bangs. So I looked up the name on the Internet and found a Jazz artist named Chris Bangs. After contacting him, he told me that there was another Chris Bangs from Memphis that sang for Mojo Risin in the past but later joined a band named "Dust for Life". I found the Dust for Life web site and saw a fellow named Chris Gavin was their singer. Thinking this could be his stage name, I called their contact number and spoke to a guy named Jason Hughes. He said Chris Bangs was their old singer and that he could not discuss the Morrison relationship. I asked if he knew something that he could not discuss or if he knew nothing and thats why he couldn’t discuss it. He said that he legally could not discuss anything pertaining to a relationship between Chris Bangs and Jim Morrison. I asked him why and he repeated his disclaimer. When I explained where I got the info, he said he knew Jason D Williams and I should go back to him if I wanted more info.

      I went to the club where I me Jason, Pat O’s in Memphis, and asked the guy who does their booking what the deal was and did he know how to get in touch with Jason and he directed me to Jason’s Web site. I have emailed him but have not gotten a response.

      Here is where it gets freaky. I looked up the other Chris Bangs’ on the Internet and found one that lives in the same city as I do, Slidell, LA.
      So what the heck, I called the number. When a man answered I asked if he was the Chris Bangs that sang for Dust for Life, he said yes. After making some small talk I asked if he was related to Jim Morrison, the phone went dead, so I called back, he answered and told me angrily to leave him alone and not to call back. I gave it a chance to calm sown and called back only to find that my number was blocked. Well, being determined (or stupid) I went to the address listed with the phone number and found a nice big house with a FEMA trailer in front of it. We just had Katrina rip through here. I knocked on the door and there was no answer. So I went to the FEMA trailer, I heard guitar music playing as I approached. I knocked on the door and a tall good looking "Jim"esque guy answered the door and asked if he could help me. I apologized to him and said that I was determined and simply must know if he was Jim Morrison’s son. Without saying anything, he produced a cell phone and called the police. I told him I would leave and I was sorry. I left with haste.

      My question is this, I can’t find anything on the net about Jim having a son, or even a rumor of such.

      BUT, if this wasn’t true, why is everyone acting so wired. I am on a mission, I simply MUST know if I live less than 10 miles from the Lizard Prince.

      HAVE YOU HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THIS?

      Joe

        1. Re: Does anyone know of the whereabouts of Cliff Morrison's bassist Tim Patrick?
          TO COOL

          : : Hey, do you know anything about Jim Morrison having a son?
          : : I was in Memphis talking to Jason D. Williams (Jerry Lee Louis bastard son) and he told me the old lead singer for Mojo Risin, a Doors tribute band, was in reality the son of Jim. His name is Now Chris Bangs. So I looked up the name on the Internet and found a Jazz artist named Chris Bangs. After contacting him, he told me that there was another Chris Bangs from Memphis that sang for Mojo Risin in the past but later joined a band named "Dust for Life". I found the Dust for Life web site and saw a fellow named Chris Gavin was their singer. Thinking this could be his stage name, I called their contact number and spoke to a guy named Jason Hughes. He said Chris Bangs was their old singer and that he could not discuss the Morrison relationship. I asked if he knew something that he could not discuss or if he knew nothing and thats why he couldn’t discuss it. He said that he legally could not discuss anything pertaining to a relationship between Chris Bangs and Jim Morrison. I asked him why and he repeated his disclaimer. When I explained where I got the info, he said he knew Jason D Williams and I should go back to him if I wanted more info.

          : : I went to the club where I me Jason, Pat O’s in Memphis, and asked the guy who does their booking what the deal was and did he know how to get in touch with Jason and he directed me to Jason’s Web site. I have emailed him but have not gotten a response.

          : : Here is where it gets freaky. I looked up the other Chris Bangs’ on the Internet and found one that lives in the same city as I do, Slidell, LA.
          : : So what the heck, I called the number. When a man answered I asked if he was the Chris Bangs that sang for Dust for Life, he said yes. After making some small talk I asked if he was related to Jim Morrison, the phone went dead, so I called back, he answered and told me angrily to leave him alone and not to call back. I gave it a chance to calm sown and called back only to find that my number was blocked. Well, being determined (or stupid) I went to the address listed with the phone number and found a nice big house with a FEMA trailer in front of it. We just had Katrina rip through here. I knocked on the door and there was no answer. So I went to the FEMA trailer, I heard guitar music playing as I approached. I knocked on the door and a tall good looking "Jim"esque guy answered the door and asked if he could help me. I apologized to him and said that I was determined and simply must know if he was Jim Morrison’s son. Without saying anything, he produced a cell phone and called the police. I told him I would leave and I was sorry. I left with haste.

          : : My question is this, I can’t find anything on the net about Jim having a son, or even a rumor of such.

          : : BUT, if this wasn’t true, why is everyone acting so wired. I am on a mission, I simply MUST know if I live less than 10 miles from the Lizard Prince.

          : : HAVE YOU HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THIS?

          : : Joe

          : I am a close friend of Tim Patrick but lost touch through all this mess. Please if anyone knows anything re: Tim please e-mail me. I only want to know if he is doing ok or not. Thanks. My prayers go out for Cliff. No matter what anyone believes he is still a man who has been through hell and deserves another chance. Let’s be honest. Did he not make beautiful music?!
          http://www.lizardsunentertainmentinc.com/floydsdisclaimer/disclaimer.htm

        2. Re: Does anyone know of the whereabouts of Cliff Morrison's bassist Tim Patrick?
          Echoes24

          I’ve seen Chris Bang’s profile on myspace, and let me tell you this… He looks EXACTLY like Jim Morrison. And I have a feeling he might just be his son… Up to you to judge for yourself, though.

          1. Re: Does anyone know of the whereabouts of Cliff Morrison's bassist Tim Patrick?
            Cliff

            I have been looking for Tim also. Meet me at myspace.com/cliffmorrison

            Your friend,
            Cliff Morrison

        3. Re: This popular thread has been given its own page :... Patti
          Patti

          : Hey, do you know anything about Jim Morrison having a son?
          : I was in Memphis talking to Jason D. Williams (Jerry Lee Louis bastard son) and he told me the old lead singer for Mojo Risin, a Doors tribute band, was in reality the son of Jim. His name is Now Chris Bangs. So I looked up the name on the Internet and found a Jazz artist named Chris Bangs. After contacting him, he told me that there was another Chris Bangs from Memphis that sang for Mojo Risin in the past but later joined a band named "Dust for Life". I found the Dust for Life web site and saw a fellow named Chris Gavin was their singer. Thinking this could be his stage name, I called their contact number and spoke to a guy named Jason Hughes. He said Chris Bangs was their old singer and that he could not discuss the Morrison relationship. I asked if he knew something that he could not discuss or if he knew nothing and thats why he couldn’t discuss it. He said that he legally could not discuss anything pertaining to a relationship between Chris Bangs and Jim Morrison. I asked him why and he repeated his disclaimer. When I explained where I got the info, he said he knew Jason D Williams and I should go back to him if I wanted more info.

          : I went to the club where I me Jason, Pat O’s in Memphis, and asked the guy who does their booking what the deal was and did he know how to get in touch with Jason and he directed me to Jason’s Web site. I have emailed him but have not gotten a response.

          : Here is where it gets freaky. I looked up the other Chris Bangs’ on the Internet and found one that lives in the same city as I do, Slidell, LA.
          : So what the heck, I called the number. When a man answered I asked if he was the Chris Bangs that sang for Dust for Life, he said yes. After making some small talk I asked if he was related to Jim Morrison, the phone went dead, so I called back, he answered and told me angrily to leave him alone and not to call back. I gave it a chance to calm sown and called back only to find that my number was blocked. Well, being determined (or stupid) I went to the address listed with the phone number and found a nice big house with a FEMA trailer in front of it. We just had Katrina rip through here. I knocked on the door and there was no answer. So I went to the FEMA trailer, I heard guitar music playing as I approached. I knocked on the door and a tall good looking "Jim"esque guy answered the door and asked if he could help me. I apologized to him and said that I was determined and simply must know if he was Jim Morrison’s son. Without saying anything, he produced a cell phone and called the police. I told him I would leave and I was sorry. I left with haste.

          : My question is this, I can’t find anything on the net about Jim having a son, or even a rumor of such.

          : BUT, if this wasn’t true, why is everyone acting so wired. I am on a mission, I simply MUST know if I live less than 10 miles from the Lizard Prince.

          : HAVE YOU HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THIS?

          : Joe

          I am a close friend of Tim Patrick but lost touch through all this mess. Please if anyone knows anything re: Tim please e-mail me. I only want to know if he is doing ok or not. Thanks. My prayers go out for Cliff. No matter what anyone believes he is still a man who has been through hell and deserves another chance. Let’s be honest. Did he not make beautiful music?!

    1. It has been a crazy ride
      Chris Bangs

      It has been a crazy ride, and I have suffered at the hands of crazy folks for most of it. Is it any wonder that I misdirect and remove everything that I can off of the internet? Whatever you chooses to believe or not believe, I tell you this; nobody should care,, and the ones that do are usually metal cases. Dangerous at worst, damaging at best. Even now in these later years of my ride, I still have to deal with the crazies.

      I would not have chosen this.

  7. DALE AXELROD warning!! NEVER NEVER HIRE THIS GUY!!!
    David Goldner c/o Bank of America

    This guy is not only a terrible artist, with LAUGHABLE talent, but HE TAKES TOO MANY BREAKS!! what a total rip off…NEVER NEVER hire this jerk.
    There are so many other ways to spend your money, this Dale Axelrod was the worst artist we ever hired…a total ass wipe!

  8. San Francisco Caricatures DALE AXELROD warning!! NEVER NEVER HIRE THIS GUY!!!
    David Goldner c/o Bank of America

    This guy is not only a terrible artist, with LAUGHABLE talent, but HE TAKES TOO MANY BREAKS!! what a total rip off…NEVER NEVER hire this jerk.
    There are so many other ways to spend your money, this Dale Axelrod was the worst artist we ever hired…a total ass wipe!

  9. i played with cliff
    sean

    i played lead guitar in the band cliff was trying to put together for a european tour in 2001,shortly before his incarsarasion.clif is nothing more then a junkie theif liar!

    1. The question of whether this guy is Jim Morrison’s son is kinda mute, although I really, really hope he isn’t. The question is whether he has talent, which, judging from "Know Peaking", he clearly doesn’t. Or at least not much.

      He sounds more like Val Kilmer doing his bad imitation of Jim Morrison than Morrison himself. There are some good moments on the album, but mostly it’s just laughable. "August Moon" is a good song. "Pick Up and Go" is pretty good. "Technology" is amusing, as we see Cliff’s naive and retarded comments on the growth of technology over the decades. One can picture him with a needle in his arm in some crackhouse musing over the technological advancement of the TV he is about to steal for another trip to the copspot. His attempts to take on Morrison’s prophetic quality are humorous at best: "Free the land/free the sand/the government is a crime." Uhhhuuhh. He needs to stop banging that s**t and realize he’s no artist, Morrison’s son or not. And I’m convinced he’s not. If it turns out he is when they cut him loose, we should all have a National Morrison Mourning Day that this is Jim’s spawn. The album is worth buying as a cabaret/drugged out/imitation Doors record. Hey, there aren’t many of them around.

      What a disappointment.

  10. keyboard player wanted
    mojo risin

    We are looking for a keyboard player for doors tribute MOJO RISIN……..Call 562-946-2000 leave Mesg. or email…………………Greg

  11. keyboard player wanted
    mojo risin

    Keyboard player wanted for a doors tribute name of the band is you guessed MOJO RISIN ………………ps where the hell is cliff?

    1. Re: where is cliff
      Andrew

      Cliff is in Folsom State Prison. He was arrested in 2002 for carjacking and for being in possession of a controlled substance. He’s serving 7 years, 8 months.

      1. Re: where is cliff
        JAS

        Cliff is now at CTF-Soledad Prison, Central Facility. He is letting every body know who he claims to be and is being treated like a star. (By the inmate population-not staff).

    1. Morrison Spawn
      Roman Rimbaud

      I met a guy called a couple of years ago when I was living in Melbourne (Australia) who claimed to have been the ‘love child’ of Morrison. He was born in 1970, his mother was from New York and ‘did’ Morrison after one of his many lost nights on the town. This guy looks incredibly alike to Cliff (yet with darker hair) and in that respect, junkie, thief or liar; even if Cliff is Morrison’s son – what a waste of a great **** ing legacy!

        1. Re: cliff morrisons prison address.
          John M. Boylan

          YOUR RIGHT, I DON’T KNOW HOW TO USE A POSTING BOARD FOR SHIT.IS CHRIS STILL "IN"? AND WHAT IS HIS CURRENT ADDRESS, THANKS FOR ANY HELP. COMPUTER RETARD.

    2. Re: cliff morrisons prison address.
      juliet weekley

      : can anyone provide the address where i can write to cliff morrison ? it would be greatly appreciated.

      1. well?what's the address? can't work a posting board?
        janet in venice

        I see no one who tried to post the address seems to be able to understand how this board works. how about someone who has the address post it here or email me to tell it to me? Cliff knows me and after reading this entire board, i gather he keeps doing stupid things and landing in jail repeatedly. IF nothing else, maybe it’ll keep him sober and straight long enough and he’ll get clean enough to see his life for what he’s done to it.
        but what the hell is the prison address? and if they’ve moved him, what’s the current one? is it federal, state, or what?
        now, try hard to figure out how to post something here. type in your name, your email, if you want to change the title, put the cursor in the window and click and delete the title you see and type in your own, then come down into the box and delete my words, and type in your own. then click on ‘submit folow up’.
        and don’t get all freaked out when you don’t see your post show up on the board. hit ‘command’ and ‘r’ and the same time– and watch the board reload in present time. and presto- you’ll see your new post appear under mine.
        ahem.
        the address, please?

        1. Re: well?what's the address? can't work a posting board?
          John M. Boylan

          : YES, I AM THE DUMMY WHO CAN’T WORK A POSTING BOARD. SO IF YOU GOT NEWS ON CHRIS, PRESENT LOCATION AND OR AMAILING ADDRESS, I WOULD BE GREATFULL.

        2. Re: well?what's the address? can't work a posting board?
          John M. Boylan

          : I see no one who tried to post the address seems to be able to understand how this board works. how about someone who has the address post it here or email me to tell it to me? Cliff knows me and after reading this entire board, i gather he keeps doing stupid things and landing in jail repeatedly. IF nothing else, maybe it’ll keep him sober and straight long enough and he’ll get clean enough to see his life for what he’s done to it.
          : but what the hell is the prison address? and if they’ve moved him, what’s the current one? is it federal, state, or what?
          : now, try hard to figure out how to post something here. type in your name, your email, if you want to change the title, put the cursor in the window and click and delete the title you see and type in your own, then come down into the box and delete my words, and type in your own. then click on ‘submit folow up’.
          : and don’t get all freaked out when you don’t see your post show up on the board. hit ‘command’ and ‘r’ and the same time– and watch the board reload in present time. and presto- you’ll see your new post appear under mine.
          : ahem.
          : the address, please?

          1. RWhere is Chric at this present time. I was with him at L.A. County Jail in Aug/Sep 2001, lost tra
            John M. Boylan

            : : If you have Christopher Morrisons address, in or out of the Joint, please E-Mail me. I was his Cellie at L.A. County in Aug 2001. Lost track of his crazy ass after that. You are right , if he does not get straight, soon, he will be with his Mom & Dad pronto. Any info on Chris, contact me at [email protected]

  12. i'm a little late to the scene..
    rae

    I was listening to Cliffs music off this website: http://www.onesoul.com/lizardsun/ i am from the US and am interested in purchasing a CD.. i’m totally enchanted by his voice.. it sounds so much like Jim Morrison’s voice. Can anyone give me any information on how i can get a cd? thank you in advance =)

    xo Rae ox

  13. Who knows
    another bastard on the loose?

    I may be one of the daughters of Morrison.
    I don’t know for sure. My mother took that info to the grave with her last year. All I was told is that he was a famous "DEAD" musician. I am a musician myself and do not wish to capitalize on his name if this is fact true.
    What I do know, is that it is entirely possible because my mother worked for what was MGM Records in NYC from 1968-1971. She was a party girl and has met many a "rockstar". I had an "unatural" attraction towards Morrsion as a child. When I saw his picture I would point and baby bibble some words. I remember seeing one of those mirrors they used to sell at Spencer Gifts with his picture on it. I grabbed it and threw a tantrum. She hated him. Called him a "pig". Thus, I was not allowed to have anything with his likeness or name on it. Mind you, I had Moon Dog albums, Stooges, and Alice Cooper bootlegs at age 3. So it wasn’t like she was some "born again". I do remember the day he died. I was only 2 years old, but from what I can remember it was a big deal; friends cam to console her etc.. After around that time I remember being told that, "daddy died".
    It would be cool to know for sure, but in a way it doesn’t matter. If he is my father then I am at fortunate enough to have know what little I could gather about him from his music and writings. If he’s not- then someone else must be. Aaaa-YEAH!
    Do I resemble him? Yes, but I had a friend that was the spitting image of Morrison and I can assure that he was of no relation.
    Have I inherited any "traits"? Yes, I fought my battle with the bottle and I am prone to excessive behavior of many sorts.
    Like I said, it would be cool to know for sure, but I am comfortable doing my own thing.
    I’m sure there are more than a few of his bastards running about.

    1. I"d be interested in talking with you
      janet in venice

      you didn’t post an email address and you might not come back to this board, so this might be a worthless post to put up here–
      but–
      it’s a year later and i have reasons for wanting to talk to you. if you see this, write me.
      and i would think if you are Jim’s offspring, you probably ought to meet Cliff at some point, too. You two would be half siblings, and that might reveal some important things both of you should know in a lifetime. That, and all these people screaming about DNA testing have a valid point, which would be shown if you and cliff would have your DNA compared.
      And then there’s the aspect of Jim’s parents in Coronado/San diego, who would be your paternal grandparents. They ought to know, and you ought to, to. Just because your father broke the chain of family communication doesn’t mean you have to. Parents do stupid things they think are cool or defiant when they’re young assholes, which in later life (if they live that long) they come to see for the mistakes that they were. When they reach that stage of life, they turn around and go back and see what they can make up, make right, if there’s still time to do it. If Cliff is your half brother, if the Morrisons are your grandparents, then you have family you deserve to meet and bee embraced by.Cliff has a daughter in Hawaii, who would be Jim’s granddaghter and your neice. The family resemblance is definitely there. Jim’s sister Anne and brother Andy would be your aunt and uncle.they aren’t Jim, but they are your relatives, and you deserve to meet and know them. Like kids adopted away, like orphans who didn’t know where they came from, you have an entire side of your heritage you deserve to be reunited with, not only for you, but for any children that you may bring into the world, so that they have a context and an unbroken line. Not to mention what doctors are going to want to know genetically about predisposition to diseases, allergies, reactions, incompatibilities to treatment, potentially lifethreatening conditions and everything they want to gather about family medical history to provide the most responsible care. What your mother took with her to the grave is not the end of it. You have a whole family you ought to go and talk to, to gather what she concealed from you- and from herself-, and if i were you, I’d do it while you still can. Dread not. They are just people.Your grandchildren and their grandchildren will appreciate that you did it.
      oh- and by the way?- the Morrison Clan holds an ancestral castle in Scotland on the Isle of Lewis. You should go. You have a birthright to it. And so does Cliff.

  14. let him do his time
    caroline

    hey there!
    i was with cliff when he got arested, i even whent to jail with him… if he is in jail, its because he did somehting bad, and if he is in jail for that long, its because he did somehting really bad, i know what he did,.. and being in there is saving his life,.. so let him do his time, its not because he is the sun of jim morrison that he dosent deservs to be in there,.. were was all the people when i was in there when I dint do shit!!!

  15. age????
    insignificant other

    Does anyone know how old Cliff is??? Where could i get cliff’s cd’s? I am a Doors fan too and it doesn’t matter to me if he really is Jim’s son or just a compulsive liar, but the main thing is, is that he is bringing back a lost sound, the best sound.Something everybody on this message board can relate too. but that’s all i have to say,write back if you feel like it, anybody.

    1. Re: age????
      hunger

      I met Cliff when I was in rehab in Oct. 2000. His b-day is Sept. 1969. I think it was Sept. 3 but I’m not positive. I chatted often with Cliff and liked him very much. He gave me a copy of "know peaking" and I loved it. Sure made rehab a lot more fun knowing Cliff and having his awesome CD to listen to.

  16. JIM HAD NO KID! TAKE IT FROM ME
    old freind of MR. Mojo

    Jimbo dident have a fucking kid. And everyone that knew jim knew he had a vary low if not any sem count. Thats why Pam C. said jim morrison is worth shit to that reporter. you young fucking fools dont know shit. Just ask ray manzarek. we laugh at this bitch cliff. think about it if jim had a kid the mother would have paraded around the city. He is jim morrison for fucking sake. she would have profited from it and you little fools would hve grown up knowing about it. like john bounams kid (well now man).trust me i know what i’m talking about me and jim where great pals. off the subject do you know why he is MR. MOJO RISIN SWITCH THE LETTERS AROUND. JIM MORRISON!
    so next time you see this kid cliff bitch slap him for me.

    1. Re: JIM HAD NO KID! TAKE IT FROM ME
      pointless

      I can assure you Jim had no children. Even if he did they would be illigitimate and not have the last name Morrison. Besides… would Jim really name his kid Cliff?

    2. Re: JIM HAD NO KID! TAKE IT FROM ME
      Sass

      Hey Man you’re all talkin like you really know but the only person who knows 100% is Cliff’s Mom…The fact is if you listen to Lizard Sun’s music there is a VERY big similarity in the sound of Cliff’s voice to Jim’s…Not to mention if you look at pictures of Cliff there is also a VERY strong resemblance to Jim—Look at his eyes and his facial structure. To anyone who thinks he’s not of relation because his Mom didn’t go bragging about it—well you might keep in mind that in certain social circles fucking a rock singer and never seeing him again may not be something to brag about. Cliff sure seems like the real deal—and if he’s not who cares!!

    3. Re: JIM HAD NO KID! TAKE IT FROM ME
      Sass

      Hey Man you’re all talkin like you really know but the only person who knows 100% is Cliff’s Mom…The fact is if you listen to Lizard Sun’s music there is a VERY big similarity in the sound of Cliff’s voice to Jim’s…Not to mention if you look at pictures of Cliff there is also a VERY strong resemblance to Jim—Look at his eyes and his facial structure. To anyone who thinks he’s not of relation because his Mom didn’t go bragging about it—well you might keep in mind that in certain social circles fucking a rock singer and never seeing him again may not be something to brag about. Cliff sure seems like the real deal—and if he’s not who cares!!

      1. Re: JIM HAD NO KID! TAKE IT FROM ME
        amy

        Why is it that when great men Die , some ass has to come forward and "claim" to be his son??? Damn it’s like me saying i’m the Daughter of Larry Flint . WTF??

        1. Re: JIM HAD NO KID! TAKE IT FROM ME
          Hyacinth

          : Why is it that when great men Die , some ass has to come forward and "claim" to be his son??? Damn it’s like me saying i’m the Daughter of Larry Flint . WTF??

          But Larry Flynt isn’t dead.

        2. Leave him alone!
          Erin

          Why do any of you people waste the time to argue? Jim was Jim – plain and simple. All the ?’s that people fly around, you will never know what truely happened in some of his most intimate times, because YOU were never there!!!! Ever heard of the game "Telephone"? Well there ya go! Shit gets strummed – plain and simple! Let him rest in peace!

          Thank you – please drive thru.

          1. Re: Leave him alone!
            Hyacinth

            Jim did not have a kid, especially not Cliff. There is acbsolutely no resemblance to JDM, and it is common knowledge that Jim was unable to father a child. Pleeze — grow up, all of you.

            And it does matter because you guys adolize a loser whose only claim to fame is that his sperm donor was Morrison. Hah!!

    4. Hi! my name’s Steve, an I come from Europe. In 1967, my mother who lived in western LA had a relationship with Jim.
      So it it is logic that the Doors leadsinger is my real father. Please send me blank papers, so that I can sign them…so you have the possibility to own an autograph of Jim’s real son!!!

    5. Re: JIM HAD NO KID! TAKE IT FROM ME
      blaze

      hey so dow do u know jim ? i read his bios n u must have been one of the guys that managed the doors, if u can am writin a book on jim, from young fans point of view i was born in 83 n am a big fan of the doors, if ur not bullshittin me please write to my e-mail [email protected]

      1. Re: JIM HAD NO KID! TAKE IT FROM ME
        elvis christ

        actually.. he is his kid. and not with patricia or pamela. i knew cliff for a summer and met the whole family. he and the surviving doors have been known to hook up here and there as well.

        1. Re: JIM HAD NO KID! TAKE IT FROM ME
          IRISH BOY

          : actually.. he is his kid. and not with patricia or pamela. i knew cliff for a summer and met the whole family. he and the surviving doors have been known to hook up here and there as well.

          1. Re: JIM HAD NO KID! TAKE IT FROM ME
            irish boy

            jim morrison did have a child, with pam curson. has been proven thru dna testing year’s ago and one look and you will see pam. was with his mother the last year of her life. details are hard to come bye as the family and who raised chris is very private.

            1. Re: JIM HAD NO KID! TAKE IT FROM ME JESUS TOLD ME SO
              adam keegan

              : jim morrison did have a child, with pam curson. has been proven thru dna testing year’s ago and one look and you will see pam. was with his mother the last year of her life. details are hard to come bye as the family and who raised chris is very private.If you dont believe me heres my email and I will send you proof :Adam Keegan [email protected]

              1. Re: JIM HAD NO KID! TAKE IT FROM ME JESUS TOLD ME SO
                JAS

                Well Adam, You are probably wrong. His mother is Lennie Widen, 54 years old. Google her and see what you get…

    6. Re: JIM HAD NO KID! TAKE IT FROM ME
      L.A woman

      hey mr mojo, you should really learn how to spell before you throw insults around, cos your makin yourself look like a right dickhead. or maybe all the years of hangin out with jim frazzled your brain. who the hell do you think you are? cos unless your jims old doctor, how do you know what his fucking sperm count was!! he got patricia kennealy pregnant too remember! so you go relax and smoke more weed than you are already!!!

    7. You're an idiot
      Kris Mason

      I talk to Jim almost everyday, and according to him, Cliff is his son. You’re so rediculous to think that you were around him everyday. It’s even more pathetic to say Cliff’s not his son when you don’t know the truth from your own asshole. I’ll take Jim’s word over yours any day.
      If you don’t believe I’m not in communication with Jim than you better educate yourself right now. http://www.jimmorrisonbook.com

    8. Re: JIM HAD NO KID! TAKE IT FROM ME
      pycodelic joe

      I cn second that man. I knew Jim and I know for a fact that Jiim never had a son. How long have you known Ray? I’ve known them since the tour in europe. I meet Grace from airplane when they were touring together and they introduced me to the doors. we kinda hit it off from there. let me know.

      1. Re: JIM HAD NO KID! TAKE IT FROM ME
        BlueLady

        You, sir, are an illiterate idiot. Instead of hanging around computer boards, you ought to get back to grammar school. The welfare system is overloaded.

      2. Re: JIM HAD NO KID! TAKE IT FROM ME
        Draz

        : I cn second that man. I knew Jim and I know for a fact that Jiim never had a son. How long have you known Ray? I’ve known them since the tour in europe. I meet Grace from airplane when they were touring together and they introduced me to the doors. we kinda hit it off from there. let me know.

        Hey!! I’m no expert, but how do you know if Cliff is the real deal or not??? He may well look like Jim(a little), and let’s face it, Jim did spread himself around an awful lot!!
        as for the jail bit, if he’s as strung out on drugs as is claimed, well it’s no surprise. druggies tend to be rather stupid at times in oder to obtain the Gods(Drugs) that they worship!!
        It wouldn’t surprise me if Jim has a few kids in the works………….after all as was said before, that guy was a whore.
        Draz

        1. Bahhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!
          Joseph

          All of this is a bunch of craps. Let’s take a scientific proof. Morrison family… just join your blood with this so-called Jim’s child. Bahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!

      3. DON'T USE THE NAME MR. MOJO. COME UP WITH YOUR OWN. WHAT ABOUT MR. MORRON
        Kris

        Don’t ever use his name. You know what happens to people who lie don’t ya? They have shity things happen to them. And Cliff, knowing the truth inside is what matters. Cliff
        Sorry Jim was such a whore and you’re paying the price. I know the truth and so do you and your Mom and JIM. I dare say Jim’s been helping you with your carreer the only way he can, it’s called spiritual manipulation. He’ll always be there for you, but you don’t need me to tell you that you already know. I’d love to hear about the signs he’s sent you from the other side. I bet you could tell some great stories about things that have "coincidently" happened. Take care Cliff, and keep your head high. You’re very loved by your Dad.

        1. Re: DON'T USE THE NAME MR. MOJO. COME UP WITH YOUR OWN. WHAT ABOUT MR. MORRON
          aly

          : Don’t ever use his name. You know what happens to people who lie don’t ya? They have shity things happen to them. And Cliff, knowing the truth inside is what matters. Cliff
          : Sorry Jim was such a whore and you’re paying the price. I know the truth and so do you and your Mom and JIM. I dare say Jim’s been helping you with your carreer the only way he can, it’s called spiritual manipulation. He’ll always be there for you, but you don’t need me to tell you that you already know. I’d love to hear about the signs he’s sent you from the other side. I bet you could tell some great stories about things that have "coincidently" happened. Take care Cliff, and keep your head high. You’re very loved by your Dad.

          1. Re: DON'T USE THE NAME MR. MOJO. COME UP WITH YOUR OWN. WHAT ABOUT MR. MORRON
            aly( hating linda ashcroft)

            none of you people bloody well know jim, or any bugger else, so relax yourselves. all i want to know is how cliff(obviously talented in his own right) managed to follow into a downward spiral like his(alleged) father? as a sound a like he is the best bar none, that i admit. yet knowing how drugs and drink affecyed his (alleged) father, how did he follow in his footsteps??? and why the bloody hell is he in jail? drugs or what? with his voice, talent and superior(alleged) breeding, why is he such a fuck up? answers on a stamp to me please, and i say on a stamp cos thats all any of you could fit on what u know, your all full of crap….

            1. allys a idiot
              flyingrobocop3

              that alys a spa sje thinkss shes so hot she thinks shes shes minging but me and the other know we’r lardilicious shes a minger jim and cliff love linda ASHCRoft shes the only 1 who reALY KNEW HIM AND She could wash her hair better then anyone in peter marks

              1. Re: allys a idiot
                lee

                actually i think she makes a lot of sense, we have no proof any of these people are who they say they are,one thing i do know is that linda ashcroft stalked jim, and wrote a pathetic trashy novel about their "life" together, her book is a laughable, and in the assumed time schedule, impossible that it happened. hope you read this linda, and feel real bad over makin money over a dead guy who cant say he didnt even know you. in fact i dare you to answer to it.

              2. what you said o dog is nasty....
                lee

                o dog, big dog, or whatever your name is, dont you know you can get sued for writing bullshit like that? if you were brave enough to post your real name you idiot, i might believe your sordid little story, your obviously gettin a case of the green eyed monster hhmmm??? jealous of cliff perhaps? maybe he slept with your girlfriend or took your sweeties in the playground, or wouldnt let you hang round in his gang? what you wrote is unproven and childish

      4. Cliff
        Wikström X

        Cliff is the illegitimate son of a Rock n’ Roll star.
        Put him in the back of Zodiac Mindwarp’s rock n’ roll car.
        And let Bill Drummond take over.

  17. remember this cliff?
    rick

    You called the cops on me because you thought i was stealing the fire extinguishers at your apt. it was pretty funny man! anyway im still in LA making music. hit me up and let me know how you are man! peace rick lets jam!

  18. what nobody figured out about Jim's death
    kris mason

    Oh Jim, you amaze and amuse me,
    with the numerical messages
    you’ve explain to thee.
    Letters by number,
    always proving mirroring
    is more than mere coincidence.
    Turning things around,
    signifying that destiny’s prewritten,
    yet never seeming to be found.
    Like a word find puzzle,
    dates, and even your name
    contains crucial information
    provided by fate’s game.
    To play
    Find The Hidden Signs
    you must learn first,
    to unbind your mind.
    So I did,
    and here ya go:
    another thing about Jim you didn’t know:
    Add the numbers in the year Jim was born
    1+9+4+3 = what?
    Now mirror the answer,
    by just turning it around.
    the # that’ll be found
    is the year he shall die.
    Now don’t ask me how
    and don’t ask me why.
    ________________________________________________________
    Take the same numbers and get them to one.
    1+9+4+3=17(a two digit number),
    so get it to one 1+7= 8 (his birth date).Is it fate?
    NOW just take the year of 43
    add them together.
    what do you see?
    4+3=?
    The month he’s set free,
    July
    It gets better.
    4×3= 12(december)
    take this times sign (x),
    rotate it like it’s the hands of a clock.
    and then it’ll add( + ) up as well.
    if the (x) was on a clock,
    what numbers would each line be pointing at?
    7&1( what year did he die? (71)
    5&11 (five and 2 ones) Five to one, no one gets out alive.
    Now turn the X hands to a plus what numbers do you have?
    9&3 multiply them and you’ll find how old he was when he died.(27)
    Just one more
    before I sore.
    K (Kris)=11 numerically
    J (Jim)=10 numerically
    add them together 10+11=?
    (always side by side)
    It’s my birthday I can not hide.
    10-21-74
    1+9+7+4 = 21(u in numerical alphabet)
    With 22 being the key number of numerology, my birth day 21 right next to it is alphabetically (21/22) UV ( perhaps representing UV sun rays) I was Sonya Ray at birth

    Next to Jim on the movie The Soft Parade you’ll see two letters in blue=
    J and U
    J is numerically 10 again, & U is numerically 21.
    10-21 for some birthday fun.( both of us end in son- Morrison & Mason)
    The Best Of The Doors the demos street date is 10-21-97. I have it. It too is in Blue.

    1. Is he the real son of jim morrison?
      superckook

      I know where Cliff works at right now I see him everyday and yes he says he is the son of the late grreat Jim Morrison but where is the real truth, I am not here to dispute if he is aor aren’t, but I really would like top know it is not a disgrace that we sometime make mistakes that cost us more then we really want to pay, His allege father his life. If someone really know if this person is really the son of the late jim morrison, please let some one know.

  19. what nobody figured out about Jim's death
    kris mason

    The Morrison Riddle 2002 written by Kris Mason

    In the tub where Morrison died
    there’s two old letters you can’t deny
    "h" for hot-
    "c" for cold;
    keys of a riddle over looked & untold.
    Born on the eighth
    Died on the third
    Need I say another word,
    Well if so
    here ya go:
    numerically H is 8
    numerically C is 3
    Isn’t it funny
    things we just don’t see
    Hot for birth-
    Cold for death-
    The warm womb baths us
    until birth brings release,
    and dying in the tub,
    just brought Jim some needed peace.
    ______________________________________

    MORRISON- NO SIR

    The admiral man Jim proclaimed to be dead
    was swept away by the military it’s said,
    only his name is what Jim was gave,
    and it’s forever etched in stone at his grave.
    Carrying his name,
    not seeing life the same
    most likely is what drove Jim,
    to be know as half insane.
    His mother Clara did what she could,
    and kept the family together
    the way she thought she should.
    It was time that he lacked
    moving from town to town,
    trying to keep steady
    on endless foreign ground.
    The military failed Jim,
    and failed his father as well,
    cause he had a brilliant son,
    that through his fingers fell.
    and now he’ll never really know Jim
    or the way he saw this life,
    cause he gave his life to the Navy,
    and not his family nor his wife.
    Opposite of the admiral,
    turn that famous name around,
    and you’ll see what Jim would say,
    to the man who always left town.
    NO SIR
    Isn’t it ironic-
    Is it coincidence,
    I’m not so sure,
    Morrison was the admiral
    completely opposite was his son,
    Turn around that name
    & it’s what Jim would say to the admiral
    about being his beloved son.
    NO SIR
    Yet leaving only the first three letters MOR
    That just so happens to rhyme
    With that infamous word DOOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  20. what nobody figured out about Jim's death
    kris mason

    The Morrison Riddle 2002 written by Kris Mason

    In the tub where Morrison died
    there’s two old letters you can’t deny
    "h" for hot-
    "c" for cold;
    keys of a riddle over looked & untold.
    Born on the eighth
    Died on the third
    Need I say another word,
    Well if so
    here ya go:
    numerically H is 8
    numerically C is 3
    Isn’t it funny
    things we just don’t see
    Hot for birth-
    Cold for death-
    The warm womb baths us
    until birth brings release,
    and dying in the tub,
    just brought Jim some needed peace.
    ______________________________________

    MORRISON- NO SIR

    The admiral man Jim proclaimed to be dead
    was swept away by the military it’s said,
    only his name is what Jim was gave,
    and it’s forever etched in stone at his grave.
    Carrying his name,
    not seeing life the same
    most likely is what drove Jim,
    to be know as half insane.
    His mother Clara did what she could,
    and kept the family together
    the way she thought she should.
    It was time that he lacked
    moving from town to town,
    trying to keep steady
    on endless foreign ground.
    The military failed Jim,
    and failed his father as well,
    cause he had a brilliant son,
    that through his fingers fell.
    and now he’ll never really know Jim
    or the way he saw this life,
    cause he gave his life to the Navy,
    and not his family nor his wife.
    Opposite of the admiral,
    turn that famous name around,
    and you’ll see what Jim would say,
    to the man who always left town.
    NO SIR
    Isn’t it ironic-
    Is it coincidence,
    I’m not so sure,
    Morrison was the admiral
    completely opposite was his son,
    Turn around that name
    & it’s what Jim would say to the admiral
    about being his beloved son.
    NO SIR
    Yet leaving only the first three letters MOR
    That just so happens to rhyme
    With that infamous word DOOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    1. Re: Caroline, what is the real story why Cliff is in jail?
      caroline

      : when will Cliff get out, and what does he think about the doors getting back togeather to tour?

      hey dana!
      cliff is getting out in a year 1/2, that what his step father told me!!

    2. Re: Caroline, what is the real story why Cliff is in jail?
      caroline

      : when will Cliff get out, and what does he think about the doors getting back togeather to tour?
      hi there!
      well i dont know much about the doors getting back together,..dana,.. am not a fan of the doors, but i do like his music,.. all i can say really, is that he is in jail for a cople years,.. for arm robery, and posetion of drugs,…( dorry my englsih is bad,am french) i got arested with him,. and luckly i got out in a cople weeks,.and got back to canada,..cliff plays good music,.. and was an ok person too,… but i got to know him and sadly have to say i daded him,..but am well placed to say that you cant beleive what he says,.. i met him in venice beach,..and hanged out with,…and i spent enough time with him to figure out what kind of person he is,..he is ready to say anything and do what ever he need to do for his drugs, and for people to love him because he is jim sun,but it dint work with me, cuz i dont care,.. but it does work for alot of people ,.. so that his way to take adventage of poeple,.he armed robed a car and drove me all the way to the desert,.. telling me we were gonna visit someone,.. but he was just running away from LA cops,. and did many ather stupid things,,. well what ever he did, it wont changed the fact that he is the way he is,.and am glad he is out of my life!
      bye bye dana

    1. Re: cliffs last address was with me
      Gordon Laks

      : cliff is in jail, for about 4 years,.. if you need any info, just ask me!

      Hi Caroline , Cliff has talked about you and showed me a lot of his photos. I was working with him before he was arrested.He lived with me at my studio new band Bla bla bla.. We did a showcase in glendale for a us tour untill asshole blew it. anyway I’d like to write or visit him but I can’t remember the name he used , I have his grandparents number but ! say no more .Can you please contact me at [email protected] or [email protected] and I will tell you alot more. thanks Gordon

    2. Re: cliff is in jail
      R.H.

      : I was just curious to find out why Cliff is in jail. Is it is lying that finally got him into this mess. I have never bought it that he was really Jim’s son. Anyway ttyl

      1. Re: cliff is in jail
        Irishboy (via moderator)

        So I was with Cliff at L.A. County Jail in Aug 01, said something about Hi-jacking a taxicab, thought he was joking, appearently not. thought he would be out bye now. So were the fuck is he? Can anyone tell me where is our Mystery-man?

      2. Re: cliff is in jail
        rick

        whats the scoop on cliff? how can we get his music? i met him at his apt three years ago. I was servicing some Fire Equipment at his apt and he called the cops on me because he thought i was stealing the shit! Remember that CLiff? It was pretty f,n funny. Any help would be appreciated.

  21. i know cliff
    caroline

    i know cliff personaly,its becasue of him i got in jail,.. that guy hase a serious probleme,.. he need mental help, he lies to everyone, about everything!!! NEVER TRUST HIM!!!
    if you have any question dont be shy!
    caroline

    1. Re: i know cliff
      Melissa

      At first I heard something about Cliff when his CD Know Peaking was released by us. In May this year I decided to buy the CD, but now I realize it was far too late. Indeed, he need mental help and not four years prison cell, which make it only worse, especially when you were once a star and unfortunately there are people who enjoy it to see him in this situation. Well not me! I know that it may be his own fault. He had been too often in drugaffaires and he must have been caught one time. Nevertheless I keep hoping for him for better times and that he may leave jail not worse than he came in.

    2. Re: i know cliff
      Melissa

      At first I heard something about Cliff when his CD Know Peaking was released by us. In May this year I decided to buy the CD, but now I realize it was far too late. Indeed, he need mental help and not four years prison cell, which make it only worse, especially when you were once a star and unfortunately there are people who enjoy it to see him in this situation. Well not me! I know that it may be his own fault. He had been too often in drugaffaires and he must have been caught. Nevertheless I keep hoping for him for better times and that he may leave jail not worse than he came in.

    1. It's about the music
      Jason

      It’s about the music. it’s about time so real talent got a chance. anyone with me? Need musicians. I am in Phoenix, will go most anywhere…. let’s re-invent rock n roll….. tall order ay…? [email protected]

  22. no peaking
    albert

    to:… caroline doing fine its been awhile, things change alot. quit doing that was holding me back…getting ready too come back out in the open p.s i need the copy of the pictures of the band. "love u caroline cliff."

    1. to albert
      caroline

      : to:… caroline doing fine its been awhile, things change alot. quit doing that was holding me back…getting ready too come back out in the open p.s i need the copy of the pictures of the band. "love u caroline cliff."
      hey there! i dont know if you were talking to me! but since when do you know cliff?

  23. what the fuck?
    Keith

    Well, I just read the story from EDog and that is pretty fucked up. But Cliff never showed that much twisted crap when I was around him. But that might be because I would have fucked him up no matter who is daddy was. Not that I buy that story with no back up though.

  24. How are you my friend?
    Keith

    Well, Cliff, if you read this, I’ll be surprised. We met up on Signal Hill last summer and I went to a jamm session/practice with you and Paul, remember the dragon? Just wanted to say hello and see how you are doing. I hope all is well. I will be in San Fransisco or vicinity for awhile, drop me a line if you get the time. Peace brother-Keith

    1. Re: Latest on Cliff?
      caroline

      : Anyone know what Cliff is up to these days or how to reach him? Thanks! hey colleen, cliff is in jail, that the lastes new i hade of him,..

      1. Re: Latest on Cliff?
        TARA

        IS CLIFF STILL IN JAIL?? I WANT TO KNOW ABOUT HIM BUT CANT FIND MUCH INFO ON NET. WHERE IS HE? WHERE DOES HE LIVE WHEN NOT IN JAIL???????HOW CAN HE BE FOUND?

  25. one black sheep
    Brandon Peterson

    I saw a skiing/snowboarding video that had a song by Cliff Morrison and The Lizard Sun Band on it. It was called "One Black Sheep." I’ve been looking for it everywhere and can;t find it. Does anyone know where I can buy or download it?

    1. Re: one black sheep
      Willi T.

      I have that video, its called ‘The Tao of Riding". I just recently converted it to DVD. **** ing great stuff. But I can’t find that goddamned song either! Is it on his Lizard Sun Band album? Have you found it?

  26. Fucked up shit
    EDog

    I met Cliff in Texas through a mutual friend that lived in Marina Del Ray. All you guys like him so much but let me tell you something you don’t know. He watched my friends daughter for a week, and according to the little girl, got in bed with her and offered her something he was "smoking off of foil" (we know his heroin problem) and she is 8.Then he took his dick out of his pants and jerked off onto a sock laying on the floor, handed it to her and told her that was what made babies. Cliff is totally whacked out of his fucking mind and if I ever see the fucker again he will wish they locked him up a long time ago.

    1. Re: Fucked up shit
      Melissa

      Well Last I heard, he’s in jail. So we won’t be seeing Cliff performing for a long time. So sad to see someone who could have been something turn into complete shit.

  27. where's cliff and andrea
    vince t

    hey,
    I’m the original bass player for the band and i want to locate andrea and cliff. If you have any info let me know!!

      1. Re: where's cliff and andrea
        vince t

        I lived with Andrea for quite some time and she is a great person. From what I understand he is Jim’s son but there is some weirdness about how the whole gig of him being born went down. Anyway I’m really just curious about what happened to him, andrea and paige, anyone that knows please contact me on the side, Thanks

  28. So does Cliff even read this??
    Melissa

    You know, i’ve been writting on this hoping to hear from him. But if he does read this…just know that I finally made it to paris!!! And if you still have a pulse…WRITE ME!!
    Melissa Acampora

    1. Re: So does Cliff even read this??
      re;cliff

      : You know, i’ve been writting on this hoping to hear from him. But if he does read this…just know that I finally made it to paris!!! And if you still have a pulse…WRITE ME!!
      : Melissa Acampora

      1. To Cliff: long time no see but again see you in the futures to come
        nelson 7/14/78 18/ 27 rivera

        It was march of 98 and it must have been the longest trip I’ve ever taken out though I now live in NY still but born in Hawaii since, hey cliff I lost touch, how are you handling. they don’t believe me much but i had the also the opportunity to bartend at a newly opened bar at the time yet ready for you and the band to play, if you will read up on it on Chicagobluesband.com; the bar: "The real mc coy" at 76 bay street Staten Island n.y. Also thanks to a good friend of mine gabeth the pale sabbath who happens to live off of Morrison Ave. I’ll be back up in the mountains for a week or so on till josh the owner of the real mc coy lets me into a live in job at his old bar/building to do some on the side work yada yada yada but your invited two apt one whole bar the longest lasting after hours bar still licensed but not in use, I’m not meaning business as you said lets let them figure it out. my parts in to the point.

        p.s. this came about all together for the setting in my head as i thought and wrote to you, also it would be pretty strange to have sat up at the bars of the area for a night of b.s. and music and a pass through quietly before returning in the future, sounds about right! leave a picture, ill tell you what’s going and what I’ve done, I’m sure you”ll come up with something,

        p.s. im doing OK i guess, life is pretty strange but in a way I’ve returned to sanity, I felt for sure i was going to remain out there but i thank God it only made me smarter I’m back down to earth as soon as i return from the top of cascade mountains , I’m taken a friend that’s bringing me there, its a great spot, Keene NY, up in the Adirondack high peak region, i got a missing love i got to get over, it means some thing ya know, ahhhhhhhhhhhh,is this true our not? does it be come as real as it seems and for many our is it just a clouded s.

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