Dave Gilmour's Guitar Equipment

Dave Gilmour's Guitar Equipment

How To Gilmour-ize Your Strat, equipment technical info & images

Signal Flow
The Guitars Gilmour's main stage guitar is a USA 57 Vintage Reissue Strat fitted with EMG-SA pickups. He has also installed the EMG-EXG expander & SPC midrange presence controls. Apart from the electrics, the only other custom feature is a shortened tremolo arm so that he can keep it in his picking hand more comfortably while playing. Other guitars used live are an Esquire Telecaster in dropped D tuning for Run Like Hell, two Jensen lap steel guitars one tuned to E B E G B E for One Of These Days & the other tuned to D G D G B E for The Great Gig In The Sky. He also uses two Gibson J-200 Celebrity acoustics one tuned in standard & the other in D A D G A D for Poles Apart & a Gibson Chet Atkins Electro Classical. Both the Jensen Lap Steels & the acoustic guitars are fitted with EMG-H pickups. (These are basically a single coil pickup in a humbucker cap). Strings On the Strats Gilmour uses GHS Boomers with a customized gauge of (.010 .012 .016 .028 .038 .048) On the acoustics he uses Ernie Ball Earthwound Light's. How To Gilmour-ize Your Strat To go along with David Gilmour's taste for pristine Strat tone is his use of EMG active electronic (i.e. battery powered) pickups. Each of his Stratocasters is loaded with low impedance EMG-SA single coils, which he beefs up with two more tone modules: the EXG mid-cut/expander & SPC mid booster. As far as the SA pickups go, they have Alnico magnets which have a little more mid range than the ceramic S magnets. He also has the SPC midrange boost control on there which produces more of a singing humbucker tone. Finally, theres the EXG which David uses alot for rhythm, since it really helps define the notes, especially when there's a little distortion on and he's moving chord voicings around. The EXG works like a V configuration on a graphic EQ when you turn it up, the midrange gets cut, while the bass & treble get boosted. The SPC is where you really here the Gilmour sound emerge. Turn the SPC all the way up & you get that thick bluesy sound used in Shine On. The Analogue Footpedals
Footpedals

(A) Boss CS-2 Compression/Sustainer.

These are no longer available new from Roland. You can only purchase the CS-3 which (to my ear) does not sound as smooth as the CS-2.

(B) Pro Co. Rat II Distortion.

The first generation Rat's distortion, filter & volume knobs yield various Marshally distortion tones.

(C) Cornish Big Muff.

Pete Cornish custom Big Muff. (looks like Pete has taken an original Big Muff and housed it in a custom box). I don't know if this has been modified in any other way.

(D) Boss GE-7 Graphic Equalizer.

This GE-7 has been set to be used in conjunction with the Rat distortion pedal.

(E) Cornish Soft Sustain.

This is obviously a Pete Cornish custom effect. Notice the combination of the GE-7 graphic EQ sliders & the knobs for sustain & volume.

(F) Sovtek Big Muff II.

The Big Muff is a very heavy-vibed fuzz with volume, tone & sustain controls. The muff sounds huge & powerful despite it's feeble tone control range & is looser & more gargantuan than say a Pro Co. Rat II.

(G) Chandler Tube Driver #2.

The Tube Driver offers lots of tight girthy gain and has an openness that sets it apart from other distortion boxes. Features high/low EQ, tube drive & output controls. These later became known as Tube Works Tube Driver.

(H) MXR Dynacomp Compressor.

The Dynacomp has a natural sounding expansion & a nice bright tone to it.

(I) Ibanez CP-9 Compressor.

(J) Boss Metalizer.

No longer available new from Roland.

(K) Chandler Tube Driver #1.

The Tube Driver offers lots of tight girthy gain and has an openness that sets it apart from other distortion boxes. Features high/low EQ, tube drive & output controls. This later became known as Tube Works Tube Driver.

(L) Boss GE-7 Graphic Equalizer.

This GE-7 has been set to boost the top & bottom ranges. Labelled T&B

(M) Boss GE-7 Graphic Equalizer.

This GE-7 has been set to boost the bass ranges. Labelled BASS

(N) Boss GE-7 Graphic Equalizer.

This GE-7 has been set to boost the mid ranges. Labelled MID The Rack
With Dave Gilmour's rack system we meet a marriage of technologies, old & new. He has always exhibited a preference for older, analogue effects but has had Pete Cornish create a switching system which guarantees ease of use with optimum, low noise performance. The Rack

(A) Furman PL-8 Power Conditioner And Light Controller.

I can only guess that this controls the lights on top of the rack so Dave can see the pedals.

(B) TC. Electronics TC-2290 Dynamic Digital Delay + Effects Control Processor.

This is Dave's primary delay unit. He uses this on most songs.

(C) Uni-Vibe.

The Uni-Vibe unit featues volume & intensity controls, a chorus/vibrato switch & sepearate speed controls for the slow or fast speed options. It also requires a seperate foot switch pedal for fast or slow. Gilmour does not use the chorus option! This effect was originally a footpedal, however Gilmour had his longtime technician Phil Taylor make a rack system out of it. He even had the old logo embossed on the face plate of the new rack.

(D) Digitech IPS-33B Super Harmony Machine.

Diatonic pitch shifter.

(E) Lexicon PCM-70 Digital Effects Processor.

Dave uses the PCM-70 to store the circular delay sounds you hear in Shine On & Time. Because it has a multi tap function it can pretty accurately duplicate the kind of echo Dave used to get from his old Binson echo unit.

(F) MXR Delay System II.

This is another rack system that began life as a footpedal. Phil also added a digital readout that he says is really nowhere close to being an accurate indication of delay time.

(G) Phil Taylor Custom Rack.

This is yet another custom made rack from footpedals. It contains the following effects.

Boss CE-2 Chorus

The original chorus from Boss has rate & depth knobs & sounds sweet, rich & dynamic. There are two CE-2's loaded into this rack one is marked Mono Chorus & the other Left Chorus. (The left chorus is inserted in the signal path for the left channel of Dave's amp setup).

Electric Mistress

The Electric Mistress has rate, range & colour controls, plus a filter matrix switch. This is sort of a bizzarre sounding flanger that gets extremely detuned & twisted.

Tremulator

The Tremulator has speed and depth controls.

(H) Dynachord CL5222 Leslie Simulator.

(I) Samson UHF Dual Receiver.

(J) Peterson Strobe Tuner.

Other Effects & Equipment
There are a few footpedals & other items which are not pictured or part of Dave's current live rig but have been and still are used by him in the studio.

MXR Phase 90

This was MXR's first effect and only has a speed knob that yields complex, swirly phase textures with silky highs & lots of vocal inflection. Also does decent rotating speaker imitations at higher speeds.

Arbiter Fuzz Face

The classic of classic fuzzes sounds big, deep & bad. The Fuzz Face takes you from clean to insanity with a mere twiddle of your guitars volume knob.

Boss HM-2 Heavy Metal Distortion

An 80's classic Gilmour used on About Face (notably at the end of Murder). It delivers incredibly gutsy grind & tons of deep bass boost. Features low/high and colour mix controls.

Maestro Rover

The Maestro Rover looks like a late 1950's NASA satellite (I will try and get a scan of this thing) but it's a rotating speaker designed to go between your guitar and your amp. This sure fire attention getter has amp & instrument inputs & features volume, speed, slow & fast controls. A crossover routes the upper frequencies through the Rover's amplifier to the rotating speaker, while the lower frequencies are sent to your stage amp.

Orange Treble/Bass Boost.

Heil Voice Box

The Midi Foot Controller
This Bob Bradshaw designed pedalboard is used to select individual or different preset combinations of effects. This doesn't do the actual switching though. The left side of Dave's rack unit contains his Pete Cornish custom built switcher, which has 24 sends & returns & uses gold plated relays to turn individual effects on and off. In addition to this, it also sends standard MIDI program numbers to the various MIDI processors that are contained in his rack (such as the Lexicon). It can also send almost anything he wants to the rack, such as a delay time or whatever. I'm not sure if he uses any of these features, but it's there.

For information on a similar type of pedalboard designed by Rocktron/Bradshaw. Footboard

(A) TC. Electronics TC-2290 Digital Delay + Effects Control Processor. On/Off

(B) Lexicon PCM-70 Digital Effects Processor. On/Off

(C) Doppola's. On/Off

(D) Leslie. On/Off

(E) Left Chorus (Rack Mounted Boss CE-2). On/Off

(F) Acoustic. On/Off

This seems to be a switch Dave uses to toggle between electric & acoustic setups.

(G) Midi.

(H) Store.

(I) MXR Delay System II. On/Off

(J) Graphic B (Mid). On/Off

(K) Graphic A (Bass). On/Off

(L) Graphic C (T & B). On/Off

(M) Tremulator (Rack Mounted). On/Off

(N) Chorus (Rack Mounted Boss CE-2). On/Off

(O) Univibe. On/Off

(P) Electric Mistress. On/Off

(Q) Chandler Tube Driver #2. On/Off

(R) Sovtek Big Muff. On/Off

(S) Cornish Soft Sustain. On/Off

(T) Pro Co. Rat II. On/Off

(U) Chandler Tube Driver #1. On/Off

(V) Pete Cornish Big Muff. On/Off

(W) Hyper. On/Off

This toggles the Boss Metalizer

(X) Ibanez CP-9 Compressor. On/Off

(Y) Digitech Whammy. On/Off

(Z) Bank Switch.

Selects the bank number for preset sounds.

(1) Preset Numbers. 1/0

(2) Preset Numbers. 2

(3) Preset Numbers. 3

(4) Preset Numbers. 4

(5) MXR Dynacomp Compressor. On/Off

(6) Boss CS-2 Compressor. On/Off

(7) Doppola's. Slow/Fast

Selects which speed the doppola's rotate at.

(8) Leslie. Slow/Fast

Selects the speed of the Dynachord CL5222 Leslie Speaker Simulator.

(9) Univibe. Slow/Fast

Selects the speed of the univibe rotating speaker simulator.

(10) Ernie Ball Volume Pedal.

(11) Digitech Whammy Pedal.

FX Facts
Despite the apparent complexity of Dave Gilmour's set up, the actual contents of each track may come as something of a surprise. Essentially his sound is fairly clean, choosing different distortion units to add their characteristic sound to his signal. As an example, to reproduce the track Money from Dark Side Of The Moon live in concert, Gilmour uses this effects combination.

Main Riff: Pete Cornish Soft Sustain with Chandler Tube Driver #2.

Solo: Boss CS-2 Compressor with Chandler Tube Driver #1, Sovtek Big Muff & TC Electronics digital delay.

Solo (Dry Sound): Chandler Tube Driver #1 with Pro Co. Rat II Distortion. The Amplification

Preamp

After journeying through the rack system the signal meets an alembic F2-B bass guitar preamp. This has been modified with an extra tube, lowered output impedance & a different capacitor to help cut the low end.

Amps

Gilmour has always been a fan of Hi-Watt amps, tending to use AP-100 watt heads on stage and combo's in the studio. Live three of the heads are used as power amps & another three are used as slaves. All use Mullard E-34 valves which are desperately difficult to get a hold of these days, but Floyd head of backline Phil Taylor still has a cupboard full!

(A) Right channel output to 4x12's 1+10 8 ohm.

I am guessing that (1+10) refers to channel inputs on a mixer i.e. channel 1 left, channel 10 right.

(B) Left channel output to 4x12's 2+9 8 ohm.

Again (2+9) could be channel 2 right, channel 9 left. If this is the case then Dave could have, for instance, channels 1+2 as a stereo pair for the Marshalls & channels 9+10 as a stereo pair for the WEM's.

(C) Spare AP-100.

(D) Output to Heil Voice Box via Pete Cornish Dummy Load Box 8 ohm.

(E) Output to Doppola's 87, 88 8 ohm.

(F) Output to Doppola 89 8 ohm.

Speaker Cabinets & Doppola's

Speaker Cabinets

The right channel Hi-Watt powers a WEM 4x12 which is loaded with Fane Cresendo speakers and a Marshall loaded with Celestion speakers. A second Hi-Watt does the same thing for the left channel which also carries a chorused signal from a Boss CE-2 Chorus. (See Footpedals Incorporated Into A Rack Space). In the second rack, one AP-100 feeds the Jim Dunlop Heil Voice Box, another feeds Doppola's 87 & 88 (8 ohm) & a third feeds Doppola 89 (16 ohm).

Doppola's

These rotating speaker units were designed by Phil Taylor & Paul Leader to provide Gilmour with that 'Leslie' effect on his guitar. Leslie cabinets themselves might have seemed the obvious choice, but Gilmour was after a slightly different sound. In the studio he had been using Maestro Rover units which are revolving full range speakers but they are too low powered for live use and so the Doppola's were born. Three units are used on stage each loaded with two six inch 100 watt drivers.

(A) Marshall 4x12 cabinet with Celestion speakers.

(B) WEM 4x12 cabinet with Fane Cresendo speakers.

(C) Custom Doppola rotating speakers.

Further info/images from Webpage by Murray Browne



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Re: Gilmour's Guitar

The first one is a 1957 Gretsch Duo Jet, probaly a newer reissue model. He used that for the Comfortably Numb where he, during the song, swiched between a Gibson Jumbo for the verses and the Gretsch for the solos.
The other one is a half scale mini guitar with only 12 frets. Don't know the name of it, but my guess is a Gibson from the custom shop. I've seen these more often now and they've become very popular for slide instead of a gigantic unaffordable lap-steel. He used it on High Hopes, Shine on part 7 and for the new song Smile.

My Floyd setup

Fender mex. Strat-upgraded with DG20's
through a Boss CS-2 -> rat2 -> big muff -> vintage deluxe mistress ->
into a Binson Echorec 2

the echorec needs some servicing, but that takes care of delay and reverb for me, I'd like to sell the muff and find a vintage one, preferably the mirror logo one, or lambs head-I had a Phase-90 but I sold it in an effort to pay for the echorec. Also the sound city amp.
Plus the phase 90 is nothing compared to a script logo, although I posted a way to modify it to stop that extra gain it added, and I hear theres a transistor you can take off to pretty much make it like the script logo.

I have the webpage wrote up, I'm scouting around for a few things to add to the page, article one is up-and I need to find a webserver that will let me have a few mp3's on it. Then I'll upload it and post it on the web

Floyd

My personal Floydian Sound

Hi guys
here is my sound.
Fender American STD - EMGA DG 20
Marshall AVT 100
(Iknow it's not the best choice) BOSS GT3
what do you think?
andre

Re: My personal Floydian Sound

: Hi guys
: here is my sound.
: Fender American STD - EMGA DG 20
: Marshall AVT 100
: (Iknow it's not the best choice) BOSS GT3
: what do you think?
: andre

Well contact me on tigrar@lycos.de so we could exchange patch dumps. Of curse all others are invited to do so.

Cya
Tigrar

Re: My personal Floydian Sound

Hi Andrea,

I have a Fender Cyber Twin amplifier. You can get the D.G. sound very easy whit this amplifier and a DG 20 EMG pick-up's team.

: Hi guys
: here is my sound.
: Fender American STD - EMGA DG 20
: Marshall AVT 100
: (Iknow it's not the best choice) BOSS GT3
: what do you think?
: andre

Re: My personal Floydian Sound

Hello!
As you might have seen in my previous posting, I only use single pedals, most of them used by Dave. However for reverb,EQ and for controlling my pedals I use the GT3. When I bought it I almost threw it out the window because of the crappy overdrive/distortion sounds, but when I started to use it as a controll board I kind of enjoy it. Do you have any fav. settings to share?
Since I don't have a fuzz face I created a similar sound on the GT3 (which is the only time I use the effects) for my Echoes/Time solos. Here it is;
Choose Fuzz from the OD efx
Fuzz 100 40 0 75
EQ 20 1,60 1 12 50 1 30 0 -2
Delay 310 30 2,00 60
Reverb 2,0 30 55,0 2,00 10 15
Master volum 80
Noises./release 50/30

this only works when you play insanely high, otherwise it just sounds like a stuffed beehive.

Please send me some tips, use my e-mail adress if you like, and I'm happy to post more settings.

Thanx, Riis

Re: My personal Floydian Sound

Sounds cool- can I ask if there is a substantial difference between a fuzzface and the Big Muff? After a decade+ of acoustic guitar studies & bands I"m starting to branch into electric a bit more, I have an 83
Fender Twin Reverb II, and a USA Big Muff, Q-Tron (not for Floyd stuff I know of, mind you) &
I just got the MXR Supercomp. I'm thinking my next move will be either the Deluxe Electric Mistress or Memory Man.

My favorite Floyd is the early Gilmour, say 68- 73 era. ANy tips? This site is great, so much great info on here!

: Hello!
: As you might have seen in my previous posting, I only use single pedals, most of them used by Dave. However for reverb,EQ and for controlling my pedals I use the GT3. When I bought it I almost threw it out the window because of the crappy overdrive/distortion sounds, but when I started to use it as a controll board I kind of enjoy it. Do you have any fav. settings to share?
: Since I don't have a fuzz face I created a similar sound on the GT3 (which is the only time I use the effects) for my Echoes/Time solos. Here it is;
: Choose Fuzz from the OD efx
: Fuzz 100 40 0 75
: EQ 20 1,60 1 12 50 1 30 0 -2
: Delay 310 30 2,00 60
: Reverb 2,0 30 55,0 2,00 10 15
: Master volum 80
: Noises./release 50/30

: this only works when you play insanely high, otherwise it just sounds like a stuffed beehive.

: Please send me some tips, use my e-mail adress if you like, and I'm happy to post more settings.

: Thanx, Riis

Ultimate settings

I just wanted to add a posting that said it all.
This is the Gilmour sound;
-Fender, Strat. Preferably a vintage 57/64 model with shortened tremolo. To get it to hold a posision and still be loose, just put some hair-wax into the hole and screw it all the way in.
-A 100w tube amp. Preferably a Hi Watt or Fender with these settings; Bass 4/ Treble 10/ Middle 10/ Presence 10/ Volum as high as it gets!
-MXR Dynacomp; Volum 13:30/ Sens. 11:30
-Electro Harmonix Big Muff; Volum 75%/ Tone 10% / Distortion 100%
-Electro Harmonix Electric Mistress; Rate 10:00/ Colour 10:00/ Range (off)
-MXR Phase 90; 11:00
-Delay (analog) Try Electro H. Memory Man. Amazing!
Early stuff ; 310ms (optional feedback/gain)
WYWH album; 370 ms (optional feedback/gain)
Wall part 1; 440ms/ 50% feedback/ 80% gain
Run like hell; 380ms/ 50% feedback 80% gain
-Vox Wah Wah
-GHS Boomers strings 0.10
(Did I miss anything?)

Pedal order; Guitar=compressor=wah wah=distortion=flanger=phaser=delay=reverb=amp

This will get you started. Now the hardest part is left. To get your fingers do the magic like Dave does.

Riis

Effects Question on the song echoes

Can anyone help out?Im Wanting to know how dave got this tripy reverb like what did he use to get it.In the song Echoes about six min in he plays this extremely trippy reverbed solo .what effects did he use?
Thanks -Tim

Re: Effects Question on the song echoes

:
: Can anyone help out?Im Wanting to know how dave got this tripy reverb like what did he use to get it.In the song Echoes about six min in he plays this extremely trippy reverbed solo .what effects did he use?
: Thanks -Tim

Re: Effects Question on the song echoes

Hi,
It's the Binson that create this halo of reverb,it's with control the feedback on the Binson echo unit!!The first playback head in conjonction with the rec head simul a reverb
;
I hope this help
Bruno

Re: Effects Question on the song echoes

No, no no. If you are refering to the bridge in echoe's, take your wah pedal and plug it in backwards. Put your imput in the output and vice versa. Put your strat on the neck pickup. Have fun.

Re: Ultimate settings

what kind of hair wax are you talking about? where can i get it

Novice Settings

Here is also a Gilmour-esk sound that I have:

-Fender mex. Strat DG Active Pickups

-Marshall 65 watt amp...Clean: treble 6, Mid 8, now here is the sweet spot Bass 10...you have to remember Gilly uses a bass preamp. Setting the bass at 10 gives the tone that extra umph. My pref. anyways.

Okay effects: Boss CS-2 compression sustainer: This is simply a must. i use it on almost every song to even the tone out. And simply a MUST for SOYCD, ABITW 1, and those delay involved songs.

MXR Phase 90: Guys and Gals this is an extremely important and sometimes overlooked effect. At a mininium setting i use this on ABITW 1 for the delays, it gives it a very creamy up and down sound, Kinda like the PULSE version. and for Have a Cigar solo and lead...PERFECT OK now here's somthing that i do. Put it on the lowest setting for the Begining of Shine! for those of you who complain that your tone isnt "big" or "Thick" enough this with do it! Remember, you dont need to have it on a high setting for it to do its thing!

Boss digital delay DD-5: Delay is absolutely necessary. It will take some time for you to use it correctly. I use delay on almost ever PF song.

Distortion: Standard Marshall Distortion...here is the Gilmour trick. gain 3 or 4 and rise the volume accordingly! Clean up your distortion people! Exceptions: Sorrow...i crank the gain to 10 and for delay i put my dd-5 on setting 2 with reapeats at minium and delay long.
Dont forget the Reverb either...i find for some leads its good for other things id rather not deal with it.

Well that is my young lineup. Ive only been playing 3 1/2 years..I plan to add things in the future like a distortion peddle, iam thinking of the rat to strart off or maybe ibnez turbo screamer. let me know what you guys think!

Re: Novice Settings

Just awesome... you folks rock, I've been doing Net research for a year, then I find this page and ka-blammo, everything I've been wondering about!

thanks,
Carter

: Here is also a Gilmour-esk sound that I have:

: -Fender mex. Strat DG Active Pickups

: -Marshall 65 watt amp...Clean: treble 6, Mid 8, now here is the sweet spot Bass 10...you have to remember Gilly uses a bass preamp. Setting the bass at 10 gives the tone that extra umph. My pref. anyways.

: Okay effects: Boss CS-2 compression sustainer: This is simply a must. i use it on almost every song to even the tone out. And simply a MUST for SOYCD, ABITW 1, and those delay involved songs.

: MXR Phase 90: Guys and Gals this is an extremely important and sometimes overlooked effect. At a mininium setting i use this on ABITW 1 for the delays, it gives it a very creamy up and down sound, Kinda like the PULSE version. and for Have a Cigar solo and lead...PERFECT OK now here's somthing that i do. Put it on the lowest setting for the Begining of Shine! for those of you who complain that your tone isnt "big" or "Thick" enough this with do it! Remember, you dont need to have it on a high setting for it to do its thing!

: Boss digital delay DD-5: Delay is absolutely necessary. It will take some time for you to use it correctly. I use delay on almost ever PF song.

: Distortion: Standard Marshall Distortion...here is the Gilmour trick. gain 3 or 4 and rise the volume accordingly! Clean up your distortion people! Exceptions: Sorrow...i crank the gain to 10 and for delay i put my dd-5 on setting 2 with reapeats at minium and delay long.
: Dont forget the Reverb either...i find for some leads its good for other things id rather not deal with it.

: Well that is my young lineup. Ive only been playing 3 1/2 years..I plan to add things in the future like a distortion peddle, iam thinking of the rat to strart off or maybe ibnez turbo screamer. let me know what you guys think!

Re: Novice Settings

Hi Mark! Thanks for the response. I guess it always is a matter of taste and what kind of equipement one has available. Seems like you stick to the PULSE sound, while I try to copy the late 70-ies sound. Anyway, it all comes down to the fingers. Gilmour makes a violin sound like a Strat.
Still I can' stress enough the importance of having a Big Muff. It can't be compared to any other distortion and I strongly suggest you buy your self one. If you already use the Marshall distortion, I wouldn't bother buying a RAT. It sounds the same, maybe the RAT is a little more versatile.
And, cranking the bass on a marshall may work, but try that on tube amp such as HiWatt or Fender and you blow off every person's head within a 30 mile range!

Re: Novice Settings

Hi Mark! Thanks for the response. I guess it always is a matter of taste and what kind of equipement one has available. Seems like you stick to the PULSE sound, while I try to copy the late 70-ies sound. Anyway, it all comes down to the fingers. Gilmour makes a violin sound like a Strat.
Still I can'

Re: Novice Settings

you wrote: " Gilmour makes a violin sound like a Strat. "

it's sad that you're such a dumbass and some people may even be listening to you. he makes a VIOLIN sound like a STRAT, you moron, and it's all due to the delay and sustain.

Tube Driven Pedals

I am seeking a pedal which functions similarly to the Chandler Tube Driver, in that it provides a warm, girthy tube tone that blends well with other fuzz boxes (such as the big muff). I am pursuing the hi-tech distortion sounds that can be heard on "hey you" from Pulse (you know, when he really cranks it for the heavy bit) and other guitar solos from Pulse. I have researched other similar, easily available pedals that have tubes in them such as the Tube Works Tube Driver, Hughes and Kettner Tube Factor and the Ibanez Tube king, but do these units even compare with the Chandler as far as pedal blendability and overall tone? If a Chandler is "the one and only" for producing Pulse/Gilmour sounds as I have surmised from this site and others, should I try to find one and forget about anything else? Where could I find an old used one that still works? Thanks for any imput!

Re: Tube Driven Pedals

I would go with the Chandler...

You can usually find them on e-bay, or post a wanted add on Harmony Central.

: I am seeking a pedal which functions similarly to the Chandler Tube Driver, in that it provides a warm, girthy tube tone that blends well with other fuzz boxes (such as the big muff). I am pursuing the hi-tech distortion sounds that can be heard on "hey you" from Pulse (you know, when he really cranks it for the heavy bit) and other guitar solos from Pulse. I have researched other similar, easily available pedals that have tubes in them such as the Tube Works Tube Driver, Hughes and Kettner Tube Factor and the Ibanez Tube king, but do these units even compare with the Chandler as far as pedal blendability and overall tone? If a Chandler is "the one and only" for producing Pulse/Gilmour sounds as I have surmised from this site and others, should I try to find one and forget about anything else? Where could I find an old used one that still works? Thanks for any imput!

Dark Side of the Moon

Perhaps a set of Fender Custom Shop 69 Single Coils would do the trick. Yeah, he used a Dimarzio in the bridge, but I heard that he didn't notice a difference from the stock pickups. Any suggestions?

Re: Dark Side of the Moon

In that point in time, the stock pickups would be your best bet. If you are looking for that DS sound. Get a Hiwatt, Fuzz Face, and an EQ pedal.

: Perhaps a set of Fender Custom Shop 69 Single Coils would do the trick. Yeah, he used a Dimarzio in the bridge, but I heard that he didn't notice a difference from the stock pickups. Any suggestions?

Brittania-A look into the music of Floyd

Announcing the new site, should be up in a few days, maybe a week-I just got off vacation. In any case, I'd like to see people who'd be interested in collaborating on articles, maybe throwing a few tips they've found at me in e-mail ( dusty@dudeman.net ) My plans are
to have the following sections in the site
Gear-reviewed by Pete Cornish, as I've spoken to him before, and he actually laughed at this sites gear listing, so I'll talk to him again, he showed willingness to explain some of the effects we miss.

Articles-This gives little sections (anyone who wishes to write a section can on whatever they want as long as its prevailent.) on methods and effects explained with tips.

Backing Tracks-A few backing tracks to download I went through alot of trouble getting them, lets give the other guys a break now too ;-)

Our Own-This has renditions of solos using the backing tracks, I'd like to keep the storage at a minimum as it will most likely be maxed out if theres alot of people, so anyone who contributes to the site can have theres posted, I was thinking maybe Comfortably Numb as its the general favorite. But whatever.

ROIO-I'm shocked to see alot of people miss out on Floyds greatest moments because they can't get the bootlegs, now I'm not going to start posting them, just certain songs worth putting up, its invaluable to finding some great riffs and hear Gilmour improvise.

FAQ-Just some commonly asked questions from this message board I'm sure everyone gets tired of.

Floyd
e-mail if interested in contributing.
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Re: Brittania-A look into the music of Floyd

Absolutely intrested. Id love to contribute. My email is RHIOPAPO@AOL.COM

Pickup- Sound Tweaking...

Alright, I am so torn. I am really really poor, I have a fender strat, cause I love the single coil sounds, but I also equally love to rock out with a humbucker. I would like to put in a humbucker in the bridge, and then two '57 single coils (Early David Gilmour Stuff/Strat sounds) in the middle and neck. However, I find that most of the time, the bridge pickup is used by gilmour (I think?) and other guitarists. I was wondering if there was a way to tweak the middle pickup to make it sound a lot more like the bridge so I can have a versatile guitar....thanks guys, it means a lot...a lot to get that perfect guitar sound!

Re: Pickup- Sound Tweaking...

Well a lot of the time when Gilmour is using his bridge pickup hes got his mid-boost on which makes it sound like a humbucker, so if you use the setup you're talking about it should work pretty well...

Re: Pickup- Sound Tweaking...

In the '70s (the sounds from this era I assume you're after) Gilmour didn't have a mid boost installed so he just had the raw sound of a bride single-coil. In response to the original question: Try buying the bridge and neck versions of the single-coils that you want (as some are specially voiced for different positions) put the neck pickup in the neck position as normal but them put the bridge-voiced pickup in the middle position. It'll sound a bit different because it will pick up the strings in a position with less tension, but it will help.

: Well a lot of the time when Gilmour is using his bridge pickup hes got his mid-boost on which makes it sound like a humbucker, so if you use the setup you're talking about it should work pretty well...

Pickup- Sound Tweaking...

Alright, I am so torn. I am really really poor, I have a fender strat, cause I love the single coil sounds, but I also equally love to rock out with a humbucker. I would like to put in a humbucker in the bridge, and then two '57 single coils (Early David Gilmour Stuff/Strat sounds) in the middle and neck. However, I find that most of the time, the bridge pickup is used by gilmour (I think?) and other guitarists. I was wondering if there was a way to tweak the middle pickups to make it sound a lot more like the neck so I can have a versatile guitar....thanks guys, it means a lot...a lot to get that perfect guitar sound!

Relics Perform Pink Floyd Music Western NY

If you’re around the area come out this Friday night
to Nietzsche's on Allen St Buffalo. Relics will be
performing 2 huge sets of Pink Floyd classics and some
obscure material.

Here is a color poster for the event
http://www.relicsmusic.com/neecheese.jpg

We will have some special guest singers,including a
Mr Eric Crittenden from "The Waz" on sax who just
actually performed this weekend with Jefferson
Starship
and Dickey Betts right after playing with Relics.

We will also have a special guest trombone player.

We will be performing some surprises and some
things NEVER heard live ever!

Also a complete Floyd album in its entirety one of
your Favs!!!

If you love Pink Floyd chances are you may never see
them live again and you will definitely never hear
them play these songs. We would love to see you all
there to experience the music of Pink Floyd live.

Hear is an Mp3 audio clip for you to check out of
Careful with that Axe
http://www.relicsmusic.com/realaudio/axe.mp3
*****************************************************

Come to relicsmusic.com and leave some feedback. And
we’ll see you Friday night in Buffalo!

Re: Relics Perform Pink Floyd Music Western NY

Man that mp3 clip sounds fantastic!!! Nice job.

: If you’re around the area come out this Friday night
: to Nietzsche's on Allen St Buffalo. Relics will be
: performing 2 huge sets of Pink Floyd classics and some
: obscure material.

: Here is a color poster for the event
: http://www.relicsmusic.com/neecheese.jpg

: We will have some special guest singers,including a
: Mr Eric Crittenden from "The Waz" on sax who just
: actually performed this weekend with Jefferson
: Starship
: and Dickey Betts right after playing with Relics.

: We will also have a special guest trombone player.

: We will be performing some surprises and some
: things NEVER heard live ever!

: Also a complete Floyd album in its entirety one of
: your Favs!!!

: If you love Pink Floyd chances are you may never see
: them live again and you will definitely never hear
: them play these songs. We would love to see you all
: there to experience the music of Pink Floyd live.

: Hear is an Mp3 audio clip for you to check out of
: Careful with that Axe
: http://www.relicsmusic.com/realaudio/axe.mp3
: *****************************************************

: Come to relicsmusic.com and leave some feedback. And
: we’ll see you Friday night in Buffalo!

GE-7settings

Recently bought me a Boss GE-7 pedal. Does anyone have any fav. settings to share?

Tube replacement choices

Hey guys -

This question might be a little esoteric, but with all the gurus here, it's worth a shot.

I have a Fender Deluxe tube amp, and I'll be replacing my tubes soon. Can anyone give me any tube recommendations that will help me squeeze out as much Gilmour out of my amp as possible? Or even if it's not in a Gilmour context, let me know if there are any damn good tubes out there that I should try out. FYI, I'll be using it with a EMG SA equipped Strat. Thanks in advance!

Leo

Re: Tube replacement choices

: Hey guys -

: This question might be a little esoteric, but with all the gurus here, it's worth a shot.

: I have a Fender Deluxe tube amp, and I'll be replacing my tubes soon. Can anyone give me any tube recommendations that will help me squeeze out as much Gilmour out of my amp as possible? Or even if it's not in a Gilmour context, let me know if there are any damn good tubes out there that I should try out. FYI, I'll be using it with a EMG SA equipped Strat. Thanks in advance!

: Leo

Well its mostly comes to two things, You, and Price. The best out there, Mullards-there reffered to as holy grail tubes, I'm not sure if that has EL34's or maybe 86's, they'll cost you, but they give a huge dynamic range and warm tone. For something alittle cheaper, but characteristic of mullard, try Brimar, it has a british rock feel to it and aren't that expensive, next I hear the sveltanas (spelling is way off, oh well) are pretty good.
Search NOS tubes if you have the cash, mullards will rack up a bill since there not produced anymore, try ebay.

Floyd

http://www.angelfire.com/rock3/floydtone/

My Setup
http://www.angelfire.com/rock3/floydtone/

I'm Back with a New Page

Hey!
I am back to this discussion board and my new page for my Pink Floyd setup is http://www.angelfire.com/rock3/floydtone/
Check it out!

Re: I'm Back with a New Page

Very wild! Thanks for the info, glad to know I'm starting off on the right path -

: Hey!
: I am back to this discussion board and my new page for my Pink Floyd setup is http://www.angelfire.com/rock3/floydtone/
: Check it out!

DD-5

Hey guys! I finally bought some delay. It was pretty expensive but I decided the hell with it and bought it anyway. Now I need to know anybody who knows their way in and out of the DD-5. Who has all the delay settings and what not? If anyone wants to help me out a little, please post a message. I'd be thrilled to see what people have to say. Thanks a lot guys!!

- Chris

Re: DD-5

: Hey guys! I finally bought some delay. It was pretty expensive but I decided the hell with it and bought it anyway. Now I need to know anybody who knows their way in and out of the DD-5. Who has all the delay settings and what not? If anyone wants to help me out a little, please post a message. I'd be thrilled to see what people have to say. Thanks a lot guys!!

: - Chris

Congrats-well from memory, I'm about to buy a Binson ;-)
I rarely keep the effect "level" (volume, far left) past much more that 2 unless, say something as in Run Like Hell, but still you want the delay to be weaker than the original signal as a rule.

Feedback can be varied depending on my mood, and yours its not too important because live he uses alot more feedback with less delay...so going to delay, that can also be a slight mood thing, if I'm in a space mood, I tend to move it to 10, 11 o'clock (400 ms) and adjust the feedback accordingly as to not clutter up the song. Now this is on the 3rd switch on the mode (far right), I rarely use the whole 2 seconds as its not long enough for decent playback, but you can get some tripped out stuff for fun. I find if I go to setting 1, make feedback about 12 oclock, delay around 400 ms you get a nice harpsicord kind of sound, very chimey, never used it accept one of my own songs.

generally thats all I use it for...the reverse is interesting, but not entirely useful...its mostly an experimenting thing, as with my setup it may sound better with less delay...experiment, take your time its a complex thing, but once you master it, its unforgetable

also, for something like Red House (Hendrix) you can move to mode 2, feedback at about 7-8 o'clock and delay around 400ms
for a doubling effect that sounds pretty good, I'm pretty sure that was it anyways, good luck. I tend to like to keep effects at specific settings, as if I'm live it can be a pain to bend over and move it

heres a few settings for songs I remember,
Shine On-400 ms, low feedback, low volume
Comfortably Numb I keep very low output level
feedback at around 9, delay at around 7-8

Floyd

Re: DD-5

Hey floyd, I was wondering if you or anyone else knew how Gilmour does that Vrrrruuuummm in "Sorrow" LIVE. The one he gets feedback on.

Instead of just hitting the low E or A he uses a chord and some kind of Delay.

What Cord is it? What delay settings? Feedback?

thanks. mark

Re: DD-5-sorrow-and question

Hmm, if its the one I'm thinking about then theres a few things; volume of course; unless your amp has good enough feedback control, I can get decent out of a 15 watt with a muff and DG-20...next, after you do the dive-bomb, try this chord: (now make sure the tremelo is fully pressed while you strike the chord)
|x
|x
|9
|7
|0
|0

now I'm thinking your reffering to PULSE which I unfortunatly lost the first CD, but from what I remember hehe-after this is blaring for a second and sustain begins to decrease, maybe pull off the fret 7 and let feedback take its course--This serves to clean the sound up alittle. The key is fret 9 on G, it gives the dynamic to it, and should be easier to create feedback from than an open A or E

BTW I was thinking of starting my own site, have a bi-weekly floyd guitar article on technique, gear, and fan floydesque-riffs or solos. What do you think? Anyone Else?

Floyd

sorrow-pulse-reply

First sorrow. Watching closely on pulse, i see that when gilmour is doing the dive-bomb and hits that vrrrrrrrrrum he is by the first or second frets...

second. If you did put a sight up, i think we would all contribute to it, thereby, forcing all of us to progress to the gilmour tone and style that much faster. Great Idea!

I think we all do a lot of research on the topic and to combine it would be fantastic.

let us know!

mark

Re: sorrow-pulse-reply

hello boys, i've been saying this many posts ago, so i will repeat me: mark is right, the vruum part is an E minor accord (the same key of entire song) that Gilmour play with the vibrato bar all the way down, to raise it gradually after he played the accord. i'm not sure but Gilmour, as in all the precedent part (that with volume swells of guitar sounds), can be play also with his volume pedal...
Shine On, Andrea

Rat 2 or Vintage Rat

Which one do you think has a better tone

Re: Rat 2 or Vintage Rat

<a href="http://paxil-medication.info/">paxil</a> BOFH Excuse #339:

manager in the cable duct

Re: Rat 2 or Vintage Rat

: Which one do you think has a better tone

I would have to say the vintage..I'm not really familiar with the RAT per se, but when they "come out with a new improved model" they just don't seem as warm as the originals.

Please need assistance on talk box!!!

I'm not sure how to set up my Heil Talk Box. My setup is: guitar->effects> a/b for Fender Deville (clean)& Marshall (dirty). Where do i put the talk box at? thanx

Re: Please need assistance on talk box!!!

I'm not sure if someone answered your question yet but this is how I run my talk box. I run a guitar cable from my keyboard or guitar into a small 100 or 150 watt amp and then from the back of the amp I run another guitar cable from out of the speaker out line into the left side of the talk box or inputside for speaker. You can also unscrew the bottom panel of the talk box to see the diagram drawing included. I hope it works for you and ps don't crank the volume up to high on your amp instead turn up the microphone volume.

Re: Please need assistance on talk box!!!

: I'm not sure how to set up my Heil Talk Box. My setup is: guitar->effects> a/b for Fender Deville (clean)& Marshall (dirty). Where do i put the talk box at? thanx

The Talk Box goes between the amp out and the speaker, best with Marshall

Gilmour delay

I got a Line6 DL-4 delay modeler, any suggestions for delay type and settings for the two solos on the PULSE version of Comfortably Numb?

Re: Gilmour delay

I use this configuration:
- Analog Echo
Delay Time: 10:00
Repeats: 10:00
Tweak: 01:00
Tweez: 12:04
Mix:10:00
Pedal not Connected

For more setups, look the Line 6 site:
http://www.line6.com/support.asp?ID=111
DL-4 Delay Modeler Presets Chart
Factory Presets Chart for the Delay Modeler (Current)

(you need a Flanger Electric Mistress for play Confortably Numb and other Floyd songs)

Good Luck.

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