GFA National Guitar Archives

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  1. SHOBUD AMP!!!
    LINN

    I HAVE A SHOBUD AMP!! I KNOW VERY LITTLE ABOUT IT. I HAVE FOUND OTHERS ON THE NET, BUT, STILL NOT MUCH ABOUT THIS BABY!! I HAVE PHOTOS AND WOULD LOVE TO SELL THIS WONDERFUL AMP TO A GOOD HOME. i DON’T PLAY IT!! bUT, IT IS IN RAELLY FINE SHAPE.. I AM A GUITAR PLAYER, BUT NEED TO REDUCE MY AMP COLLECTION. I LIVE OUTSIDE OF ST. LOUIS IN ST. PETERS MO. AMP IS FOR SALE ON CRAGSLIST

    THANKS

    LATER
    LINN

    1. Re: SHOBUD AMP!!!
      terry miller

      : I HAVE A SHOBUD AMP!! I KNOW VERY LITTLE ABOUT IT. I HAVE FOUND OTHERS ON THE NET, BUT, STILL NOT MUCH ABOUT THIS BABY!! I HAVE PHOTOS AND WOULD LOVE TO SELL THIS WONDERFUL AMP TO A GOOD HOME. i DON’T PLAY IT!! bUT, IT IS IN RAELLY FINE SHAPE.. I AM A GUITAR PLAYER, BUT NEED TO REDUCE MY AMP COLLECTION. I LIVE OUTSIDE OF ST. LOUIS IN ST. PETERS MO. AMP IS FOR SALE ON CRAGSLIST

      : Do you still have the Sho Bud amp, if so what model is it.
      : THANKS

      : LATER
      : LINN

    1. Re: sho-bud grand slam#7728
      mary kay

      : if there is some one who has a grand slam #7728 and wonts to sell it please let me know

      i have a club model – mint shape – any idea what it would be worth

      1. Re: sho-bud grand slam#7728
        Terry

        : : if there is some one who has a grand slam #7728 and wonts to sell it please let me know

        : i have a club model – mint shape – any idea what it would be worth

        THE SPADE IS THE LOWEST MODEL, STILL AS GOOD AS THE REST BUT NOT AS RARE. IF YOU WANT TO SELL IT PLEASE E-MAIL YOUR PRICE AT [email protected]

    1. Re: sho-bud grand slam#7728
      Terry

      Hi, This is Terry, I’m still looking for a Grand Slam model #7728, I am willing to give thousand for this guitar, Please e-mail me at [email protected].
      I will pay any price for this guitar. If anyone has any SHO-BUDs i will buy them. Thanks, Terry.

      1. Sho- Bud Guitar
        Bob

        Hi Terry. I’m new on this site and have never replied to anyone about this Guitar. I have a Diamond model # 7722. It’s in fantastic shape and plays great, It was given to me by my step father-in-law after he passed away, a few years ago. He was an excellent bass player. He also had a red, white and blue bass guitar that Buck Owens and his band made famous years back. I don’t know what happened to it. He also told me stories about playing with George Jones, years before he became a super star. Until now I wasn’t sure anyone knew about these guitars. I so glad to here, that someone knows the history of these great gitfiddles. They play and sound so good. I’m sure the Grand Slam is out there, but I’ve only read about one or two that were even made. Thanks for listening, Bob…

            1. SHO- BUD guitar
              Robert Brown

              Sorry I haven’t been on the site lately. I’ve been in the hospital with covid 19 for about 6 days. Back in Sept. Still weak but I’m getting better. If your still interested in buying a Sho-Bud guitar, I have a nice one. It has no scratches or nicks on it at all. It does need a set of strings, (which I may put on it anyway ). I’ve been playing it lately with the computer with some older songs I know. It sounds great with the strings that’s on it. I just noticed your reply this afternoon, sorry about that but I have been under the weather lately. Be glad to send you some pictures of it, if your still interested….. Bob

  2. Marwin guitars
    Mike Moody

    I have an old pre WWII Marwin Star acustic. Need to know about the manufacterur, the guitars rarity and possible interested collecters.
    Thanks Mike.

    1. Re: Marwin guitars
      ernest padgett

      : I have an old pre WWII Marwin Star acustic. Need to know about the manufacterur, the guitars rarity and possible interested collecters.
      : Thanks Mike.

      1. Re: Marwin guitars
        Josh Moore

        : : I have an old pre WWII Marwin Star acustic. Need to know about the manufacterur, the guitars rarity and possible interested collecters.
        : : Thanks Mike.
        I also have a marwin acoustic guitar its a marwin super its been handed down through my family the tale is maybell carter played the wildwood flower on it at the grand ole opry. if you have any info on the company please email me thanks

        1. : : : I have an old pre WWII Marwin Star acustic. Need to know about the manufacterur, the guitars rarity and possible interested collecters.
          : : : Thanks Mike.
          : I also have a marwin acoustic guitar its a marwin super its been handed down through my family the tale is maybell carter played the wildwood flower on it at the grand ole opry. if you have any info on the company please email me thanks

          Have you ever heard of a Marwin Pride Archtop Acoustic Guitar. I have one and can’t find any information on them.

          1. marwin guitars
            Bruce

            I also have a Marwin guitar. It’s a Marwin No.1 archtop, circa 1935. Mine has a solid spruce top, solid birch sides and back. All the Marwin guitars were made by Harmony for Tonk Bro.’s of Chicago. They sold Marwin guitars and mandolins. Mine has a great sound, especially for blues or jazz. Hope this helps.

  3. Old Yamaha jazz guitar, who knows more about it?
    Armin Moller

    Hello,
    I bought a 2nd hand Yamaha hollowbody electric guitar. I was told that it was made between the years 1972-1975. The guitar has the serial number 24545. It is in a very good condition, everything works fine, including the tremolo. There are no scratches on the guitar and the hardware shines as brandnew. I paid US$ 900 for it. You can see some foto’s of the guitar on http://www.dutchcom.net/yamaha_guitar/index.htm
    Can you tell me what this model is called, when it was made, what the price was when it was new and what the value is now.
    Thank you very much.
    Kind regards,
    Armin Moller

    1. Re: Old Yamaha jazz guitar, who knows more about it?
      murph

      ……………………………………………………
      im murph in sydney australia, i know most everything in regard to vintage yamaha guitars, acoustics, semis, solids and hollow bodies, give me a hoi should you still need info, cheers and all the best from the land of OZ…………………………..murph

    1. Re: Chris Ivey in Sscramento
      david

      a complete scum bag that cheated on his wife.
      he hides behind the skirts of women that he uses.
      his illness is directly related to his being a crank user (i.e. the benzene used used to produce crank).
      he can’t pay his bills and so uses others such as his little groupie, Terry Findley, for a free place to live.
      he is a complete and continual user of crank.
      he is scum.

      david

      1. Re: Chris Ivey in Sacramento
        David Prado

        I David reiterate and reaffirm what I said here. Christopher Barnes Ivey is a tweeking scum bag. To clarify, benzene is in the production of his drug of choice.

        1. Re: Chris Ivey in Sacramento
          joe augustine/ loren bubar

          hey dude we wanna play with y’all. call sometime here in Los Banos. Currently working sometime with Barry Eli on keyboard from Sactown

    2. Re: This popular thread has been given its own page :... peter
      peter

      Chris Ivey in Sscramento is a crank addict that can’t pay his bills and uses others for a place to live and support.

  4. 1960 National guitar
    Matt

    A friend has a 1960 National solid body electric guitar. I can only find information on the Reso-Phonic guitars made by National. Is there a place I can go to get information on a National 1960 solid body?

    1. Re: SHO BUD ACOUSTIC GUITAR
      Ron Stewart

      : I own a 6 string acoustic flat top caled a Sho Bud "Spade Model" I bought it new in 1978. It is a beautiful guitar with great action. I also had a Club and a Diamond model which regreatably I sold to friends back in 1979. Anyone who is lucky enough to have one of these acoustic guitars knows what I am talking about when I say it is in a class by itself.

    2. Re: SHO BUD ACOUSTIC GUITAR
      terry . if u wont to sell it let me know

      : I own a 6 string acoustic flat top caled a Sho Bud "Club Model" with hearts, diamonds, spades, and clubs up the fretboard. The label says it’s hand crafted in Japan under the direction of Music City Mfg. Any ideas about how old, worth, etc.? Thank you.
      : John

      1. Re: SHO BUD ACOUSTIC GUITAR
        clay

        John,
        In the late 70s’ SHOt and BUD added acoustics to their already money making steel guitar business. My guitar matches the description of yours, but it is the "Diamond Model". I hear there are one named after each card suite.
        The goal was to compete for the Martin business
        I would have a hard time parting with mine.
        For collector purposes, one in great condition should be worth near 1 thousand dollars.

        1. Sho Bud
          Anonymous

          I have #1 made by Gene Martin there at Shot’s shop in Nashville. If you know of anyone that might be interested in it I would possibly consider selling it.

    3. Re: This popular thread has been given its own page :... J. Lee
      J. Lee

      I own a 6 string acoustic flat top caled a Sho Bud "Club Model" with hearts, diamonds, spades, and clubs up the fretboard. The label says it’s hand crafted in Japan under the direction of Music City Mfg. Any ideas about how old, worth, etc.? Thank you.
      John

      1. Info on my 'SJ' ShoBud 7 string acoustic
        Lou Normandeau

        Hi, I have owned and enjoyed a 7 string resonator for several years, love the sound, and I recently decided to investigate more about its origins. From what research I’ve done, it appears that it’s a Sho-Bud with the deck-of-cards inlays on the fretboard, and the initials ‘SJ’ (Shot Jackson?) on the headstock.
        It’s identical to the guitar in this Youtube video:

        With the exception of the initials on the headstock being ‘SJ’ instead of ‘BJ’, no other identifying labels on the headstock or body anywhere, and no ‘Gretsch’ stamped on the bridge anchor. Happy to send pics to anyone if requested.

        Any info greatly appreciated!

        1. Sorry for the repeat post!
          Lou Normandeau

          HI sorry for the redundant posting, I thought the first entry hadn’t worked so I tried again later the in the day.
          Anyways to update this story, I have received some info from a very helpful gentleman named Andrew Roblin who worked in Shot Jackson’s workshop in the early 80’s. Rather than risk misquoting him, I’ll copy and paste his response here:

          “Lou, this instrument was made at the Shot Jackson Guitar Center in the years–roughly 1981-1983–after Shot sold the “Sho-Bud” name and before the store closed. Like the Sho-Bud store, the Shot Jackson Guitar Center was at 416 Broad in Nashville. All that changed was the name on the sign.
          In a room off the second-floor repair department, Shot had an inventory of parts, including Gretsch resonator bodies and distinctive tuners in a tent-shaped housing. Shot preferred seven-string instruments like this one.
          These instruments were assembled, finished and set up by Bill Merritt, Gene wooten, AJ Nelson and Shot. I was a janitor at the store and also did occasional working stripping and sanding instruments.
          Like you said, “SJ” stands for Shot Jackson.”

          – So this was a later-years Shot Jackson-made guitar. I’m thrilled that it was made in original Nashville shop and was likely built by Shot Jackson himself, and has his own initials on the headstock. It’s a wonderful instrument.

          Any other information still appreciated! I’d be interested to see how many of these might still be out there!

          Regards
          Lou

      2. Shot Jackson acoustic
        Lou Normandeau

        Hi I have owned what I believe is a Sho-Bud 7 string acoustic for years now, love the thing but never thought to look up its lineage until lately.
        It’s got the playing-card neck, looks absolutely identical to one in the Youtube video with Charlie Reece:

        however mine has the intials ‘SJ’ on the headstock instead of his which has the letters ‘BJ’ for Bill Johnson. Mine doesn’t have the ShoBud label on it nor Gretsch on the bridge anchor, just those letters ‘SJ’ which I might assume means Shot Jackson.

        I would love to hear any information on this guitar, sounds like it might have an interesting history. It sure plays like it does! Happy to send pics if requested.

        Thanks any info appreicated.
        Regards
        Lou

        1. Collection
          Anonymous

          Hi Terry.
          Where did you find the Grand Slam? You have a great collection. I’m Shot’s granddaughter. Let me know if you decide to sell any.
          Thanks!
          Dawn

      3. Sho bud acoustic guitar
        Terry

        Hello I have a collection of sho bud acoustic guitars I have collected for years dose some one know what the value would be on them I have 3 harts. 4 diamonds. 5 spades and 2 clubs if there’s some one who know about them please let me know thanks I have been looking for the grand slam for years the hart model sounds as good or better than my Martin d-45 thanks

        1. collection
          Austin

          thats quite a nice collection of them, where have you found them for sale? would you be willing to part with one of them? i’ve been searching for one like my grandmother used to play every day and haven’t been able to find one for sale

              1. Sho bud Guitar
                Bob

                I have a Diamond model Sho- Bud Guitar that my step father-in-law gave me before he passed away. It is in very good condition and plays very well, by the way it sounds great. I never play it so I’m selling it to the highest bidder. If you would like to talk message me. Bob…

        1. yes i am interested in your club model, would love to see pictures. my grandmother played a sho bud for years and ive been trying to find one for quite some time

      4. I have a Sho-Bud, diamond model manifactured in Japan, in very good condition. I purchased the guitar in 1977. It has the 2 piece rose wood back. I would like to know a little more about it and what it is worth today.

  5. SHO BUD ACOUSTIC GUITAR
    J. Lee

    I own a 6 string acoustic flat top caled a Sho Bud "Club Model" with hearts, diamonds, spades, and clubs up the fretboard. The label says it’s hand crafted in Japan under the direction of Music City Mfg. Any ideas about how old, worth, etc.? Thank you.
    John

    1. Re: SHO BUD ACOUSTIC GUITAR
      Roger Capps

      : I own a 6 string acoustic flat top caled a Sho Bud "Club Model" with hearts, diamonds, spades, and clubs up the fretboard. The label says it’s hand crafted in Japan under the direction of Music City Mfg. Any ideas about how old, worth, etc.? Thank you.
      : John

      I got mine in 1981

    2. Re: SHO BUD ACOUSTIC GUITAR
      Ray Frizzell

      I have a Sho Bud Acoustic Guitar (Heart Model 7724) which
      my wife bought for my birthday in 1981. She went to a local music shop and asked the owner (who was playing this guitar at the time), If he was going to buy any guitar in
      his store, which one would he buy. His response, The Sho Bud Heart he was playing. She bought the guitar on the spot. She thouht the owner was going to cry… I will tell you this.. I will not part with it. To me, it sounds
      better than any guitar I have heard.

      1. Re: SHO BUD ACOUSTIC GUITAR
        bryan harkness

        : I have a 6 string Sho-Bud Heart model. Im not sure which one is better? anybody have an idea?

        My name is bryan harkness, i also have a sho bud heart model and i think it is the best one they made

    3. Re: SHO BUD ACOUSTIC GUITAR
      David Glover

      : I own a 6 string acoustic flat top caled a Sho Bud "Club Model" with hearts, diamonds, spades, and clubs up the fretboard. The label says it’s hand crafted in Japan under the direction of Music City Mfg. Any ideas about how old, worth, etc.? Thank you.
      : John
      : John, I also have a sho-bud club model. I’ve had mine for over 20 years, and paid $200.00. I don’t know it’s present value, but certainly much more than I paid. I saw Roy Clark playing a club model on Hee Haw–I was impressed.
      : David

      1. Re: SHO BUD ACOUSTIC GUITAR
        Young

        : : I own a 6 string acoustic flat top caled a Sho Bud "Club Model" with hearts, diamonds, spades, and clubs up the fretboard. The label says it’s hand crafted in Japan under the direction of Music City Mfg. Any ideas about how old, worth, etc.? Thank you.
        : : John
        : : John, I also have a sho-bud club model. I’ve had mine for over 20 years, and paid $200.00. I don’t know it’s present value, but certainly much more than I paid. I saw Roy Clark playing a club model on Hee Haw–I was impressed.
        : : David

        My dad has the exact same sho bud, and has had it about 20 years to, trying to find some info myself.
        young

    4. Re: SHO BUD ACOUSTIC GUITAR
      David Glover

      : I own a 6 string acoustic flat top caled a Sho Bud "Club Model" with hearts, diamonds, spades, and clubs up the fretboard. The label says it’s hand crafted in Japan under the direction of Music City Mfg. Any ideas about how old, worth, etc.? Thank you.
      : John
      : John, I also have a sho-bud club model. I’ve had mine for over 20 years, and paid $200.00. I don’t know it’s present value, but certainly much more than I paid.
      : David

    5. Re: SHO BUD ACOUSTIC GUITAR
      David Glover

      : I own a 6 string acoustic flat top caled a Sho Bud "Club Model" with hearts, diamonds, spades, and clubs up the fretboard. The label says it’s hand crafted in Japan under the direction of Music City Mfg. Any ideas about how old, worth, etc.? Thank you.
      : John
      : John, I also have a sho-bud club model. I’ve had mine for over 20 years, and paid $200.00.
      : David

    6. Re: SHO BUD ACOUSTIC GUITAR
      Joshua Mullin

      The only thing i know about the guitar is that i would give my right arm for one. It has a terrific sound and is very well crafted. I have a friend who has one. The playability is good, and I would rather play it then my martin anyday. If either of you would like to sell, contact me or post a message.

      1. Re: SHO BUD ACOUSTIC GUITAR
        Jack E. Shrader Sr.

        : The only thing i know about the guitar is that i would give my right arm for one. It has a terrific sound and is very well crafted. I have a friend who has one. The playability is good, and I would rather play it then my martin anyday. If either of you would like to sell, contact me or post a message.

        1. Re: SHO BUD ACOUSTIC GUITAR
          Ivan

          : : I have a Club Model 7720 that I have tried to get information on. The guitar plays great but was dropped at church and a little damage to the back of it. I might sell it if the price is right. I live outside Indianapolis.

      1. Re: SHO BUD ACOUSTIC GUITAR
        Bill Findley

        : I have a Sho-Bud. It is not a Club model. I don’t know much about it. My brother had it for a long time. It has a very good, rich sound. It sounds better than my Martin.
        Are there any other web sites to check?

        1. Re: SHO BUD ACOUSTIC GUITAR
          wayne

          : : I have a Sho-Bud. It is not a Club model. I don’t know much about it. My brother had it for a long time. It has a very good, rich sound. It sounds better than my Martin.
          : Are there any other web sites to check?

          1. Re: SHO BUD ACOUSTIC GUITAR
            wayne

            : : : I have a Sho-Bud. It is not a Club model. I don’t know much about it. My brother had it for a long time. It has a very good, rich sound. It sounds better than my Martin.
            : : Are there any other web sites to check?
            my name is wayne and i have a sho bud heart model and i’ve never seen another like it or any other sho bud acoustic, but i like the hell out of it. it sounds great

    7. Re: SHO BUD ACOUSTIC GUITAR
      Terry Broadway

      : I own a 6 string acoustic flat top caled a Sho Bud "Club Model" with hearts, diamonds, spades, and clubs up the fretboard. The label says it’s hand crafted in Japan under the direction of Music City Mfg. Any ideas about how old, worth, etc.? Thank you.
      : John

      1. Re: SHO BUD ACOUSTIC GUITAR
        Greg Smith

        : : I own a 6 string acoustic flat top caled a Sho Bud "Club Model" with hearts, diamonds, spades, and clubs up the fretboard. The label says it’s hand crafted in Japan under the direction of Music City Mfg. Any ideas about how old, worth, etc.? Thank you.
        : : John
        I have the same guitar. I bought it new in 1979 for $200(I think) As I recall there was an entire line of these guitars , one model for each card suit…club spade heart diamond and also a "grand slam" model. I havent seen another Sho-Bud acoustic guitar since the day I bought mine.It has developed a very sweet tone and is worth far more to me now than what I paid.

    8. Re: SHO BUD ACOUSTIC GUITAR
      Dennis Cassiday

      I have the same guitar and I can not find any info on it. I got mine in a pawn shop in Fort Wayne, In. A friend of mine worked in the pawn shop there. Plays good.

    9. Re: SHO BUD ACOUSTIC GUITAR
      Dennis Cassiday

      : I own a 6 string acoustic flat top caled a Sho Bud "Club Model" with hearts, diamonds, spades, and clubs up the fretboard. The label says it’s hand crafted in Japan under the direction of Music City Mfg. Any ideas about how old, worth, etc.? Thank you.
      : John

      1. Re: SHO BUD ACOUSTIC GUITAR
        Frank Rapley

        These posting are kind of old, so I don’t know if any of you guys found out anything more about value. I have a Diamond Model. I traded another guitar for it back in 1979 or 1980. I have played it extensively ever since. Sounds great and has a fantastic action.

        1. Re: SHO BUD ACOUSTIC GUITAR
          Sean Baker

          I have a Sho Bud Acoustic pre Gretch (diamond heart club spade or grand slam). This is number 75 of 100 they made before selling the patent to gretch. It is hand made right here in USA. Any ideas on how much its worth?

  6. national triolian 4 string
    bob lostracco

    i looking for info on this item i will sell
    its brown in color,national triolian 4 string metal body guitar
    stamped on the neck end is 1 8 5 6 and under that is stamped 1 0 3 2 w and under that is stamped pat apld for
    anybody kno anything bout this
    bob

    1. Re: national triolian 4 string
      don

      I, too, have one. You can tune it like a baritone uke (D-G-B-E) or like a tenor banjo. I use the uke tuning (1st 4 high strings of a 6 string guitar). Ptoblem with them is that the necks bow and you grow sharper up the next. Austin luthier Vinnie Mondello rebuilt the neck with a steel rod, wood braces, and fiberglass inside and it now plays like a jewel.

      1. Re: national triolian 4 string
        Little Bennie Durall

        : Let me know if you find anyone that can help you, I have one that sounds almost identical.

        : Thanks,
        : Kim

        I have a National Triolian 4 string. serial # 121B

    1. Re: Sho Bud Amplifier
      Ronald White

      Steve: A friend of mine bought serial number 1141 when it was new approximately eight years ago. It has a JBL speaker. You may want to post this question on the Steel Guitar Forum to see if someone there might know more. Let me know if you want to sell this amp. I am looking for one.

      Kind Regards, Ron White

    2. Re: This popular thread has been given its own page :... Steve
      Steve

      I have an older Sho Bud amp I bought from my brother and would like to try and find out the age and approxiamte value for insurance purposes, or possibly to sell. Could you please direct me? The only identification # I can find is on the power amp itself a # 0601, and on the JBL Speaker – Signature Speaker – D130F, ser.# 66410 (?) I would greatly appreciate your advice.
      Thanks
      Steve

  7. national tenor guitar
    chris ivey

    a friend has a national tenor, metal body guitar with a resonator and ornate engraving, with mother of pearl inlaid neck and headstock binding, slotted head…..anybody know where we can get more info on this? thanx, chris

    1. Re: national tenor guitar
      David

      : a friend has a national tenor, metal body guitar with a resonator and ornate engraving, with mother of pearl inlaid neck and headstock binding, slotted head…..anybody know where we can get more info on this? thanx, chris

      I have a very similar instrument. I learned quite a bit about it simply by calling the National company and giving them the serial numbers I found on the body and on the neck.

  8. old lap steel
    Howard Buckbee

    Ive inherited an old supro lap steel bought used sometime in the thirties I’m lead to believe.It’s electric with one knob mounted on the pickup cover.The pickup apears to be a thick horse shoe shaped magnet.Any information or collector interest is welcome…….Thank you

    1. Re: supro guitar
      lisa gamble

      : I hear national made a lower end guitar called the supro…I saw one at a music store and i love it….where do i find more info on it?

        1. Re: supro guitar
          Larry McDaniel

          : hey is anyone out there?

          yes mabe only one but i bought a supro back in the mid 60’s, double pick up, wave bar, blond in color , jazz neck, looks like a les paul? I love it any supro owners please let me here from you
          l mcdaniel

        2. Re: supro guitar
          Martin Stender

          I just stumbled across one too (on the net).
          It looks great. I want one…
          I live in Europe, and I *think* it was made in Spain.
          They also made some models out of artificial materials (glassfiber etc.).

          Let me know if you find more interesting stuff on this.

          Best
          Martin

          1. Re: supro guitar
            Bobby Stahr

            : I just stumbled across one too (on the net).
            : It looks great. I want one…
            : I live in Europe, and I *think* it was made in Spain.
            : They also made some models out of artificial materials (glassfiber etc.).

            : Let me know if you find more interesting stuff on this.

            : Best
            : Martin

            Hi All
            I bought one with an amp with the same serial number,that looked like a 3/4 version of a 1 pick up Les Paul Junior. I believe it was a student set up that they sold through music schools. When I was in Seattle Wa in the early ’70’s I seem to recall seeing a fair number of them in the pawn shops there,but don’t have a rerason why. Alkways thought they were made ther due to their quantity in the immediate area but could be wrong,have been in the past and likely will be again. Guess this just adds to the mystery. By the way I founf mine in 1068 at a coffee house.
            bobby

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