Sitka Spruce tonewood
My company has a very large supply of Sitka Spruce tonewood for sale. This tonewood comes from very large blow downs that range from 4-8 foot on the butt cut. This wood is all AAA-AAAA and I sell it for 1400$ a cord and ship it a half cord at a time for 700$ and the buyer pays the shipping. I can also send you a very large bolt that weights from 80 to 110 pounds for 50$ and the buyer pays the shipping. I have been cutting tomber wood products on the Pacific West Coast for over 40 years and this wood I ship is very good quality. My company is located in Ketchikan, Alaska. I hope your company is interested in this wood. Thank you. John

Re: Sitka Spruce tonewood
I have found numerous post around the internet from people that John has ripped off. He either doesn't send the wood or sends poor quality. He rarely sends what is advertised.
-----Original Message-----
From: Colorado Luthiers
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 3:19 PM
To: John McCray
Subject: RE: bolts
John,
I think what would make us happy at this end would be a schedule of when you plan to ship our additional 8 bolts. At least we'd know what to expect. Please let me know what you can do here.
Colorado Luthiers
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 15:58:02 -0800
From: John McCray <cia@kpunet.net>
Reply-To: John McCray <cia@kpunet.net>
Subject: RE: bolts
To: Colorado Luthiers
I am going to send your wood and that is the end of the business deals forever. Kiss my *ss all of you. I do not need this pissy-*ss sh*t from a bunch of low life greeny luthiers. You want your wood now. Send me money for
air mail and it will be there in a day or so. Otherwise shut the f**k up you comie. Or I will not ship anything to you this year. John
Re: Sitka Spruce tonewood
99% of my complaints come from 2% of my buyers. The one billet guys who think their one guitar a year is worthy enough for them to beller loud and long about their expert professionalism in luthiering. 50% of them ruin the wood trying to saw it up and call me to blame me and the wood and want another free billet to wittle on. I have sold 1000's of these billets and 1% of the buyers bitch because they are just learning the trade of luthiering. These are not a Victor Baker guitar people. They have'nt a foggyest. John of www.alaskatonewood.com
: I have found numerous post around the internet from people that John has ripped off. He either doesn't send the wood or sends poor quality. He rarely sends what is advertised.
:
: -----Original Message-----
: From: Colorado Luthiers
: Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 3:19 PM
: To: John McCray
: Subject: RE: bolts
: John,
: I think what would make us happy at this end would be a schedule of when you plan to ship our additional 8 bolts. At least we'd know what to expect. Please let me know what you can do here.
: Colorado Luthiers
:
: Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 15:58:02 -0800
: From: John McCray <cia@kpunet.net>
: Reply-To: John McCray <cia@kpunet.net>
: Subject: RE: bolts
: To: Colorado Luthiers
: I am going to send your wood and that is the end of the business deals forever. Kiss my *ss all of you. I do not need this pissy-*ss sh*t from a bunch of low life greeny luthiers. You want your wood now. Send me money for
: air mail and it will be there in a day or so. Otherwise shut the f**k up you comie. Or I will not ship anything to you this year. John
Re: Sitka Spruce tonewood
99% of my complaints come from 2% of my buyers. The one billet guys who think their one guitar a year is worthy enough for them to beller loud and long about their expert professionalism in luthiering. 50% of them ruin the wood trying to saw it up and call me to blame me and the wood and want another free billet to wittle on. I have sold 1000's of these billets and 1% of the buyers bitch because they are just learning the trade of luthiering. These are not a Victor Baker guitar people. They have'nt a foggyest. John of www.alaskatonewood.com
: I have found numerous post around the internet from people that John has ripped off. He either doesn't send the wood or sends poor quality. He rarely sends what is advertised.
:
: -----Original Message-----
: From: Colorado Luthiers
: Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 3:19 PM
: To: John McCray
: Subject: RE: bolts
: John,
: I think what would make us happy at this end would be a schedule of when you plan to ship our additional 8 bolts. At least we'd know what to expect. Please let me know what you can do here.
: Colorado Luthiers
:
: Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 15:58:02 -0800
: From: John McCray <cia@kpunet.net>
: Reply-To: John McCray <cia@kpunet.net>
: Subject: RE: bolts
: To: Colorado Luthiers
: I am going to send your wood and that is the end of the business deals forever. Kiss my *ss all of you. I do not need this pissy-*ss sh*t from a bunch of low life greeny luthiers. You want your wood now. Send me money for
: air mail and it will be there in a day or so. Otherwise shut the f**k up you comie. Or I will not ship anything to you this year. John
Re: Sitka Spruce tonewood
: My company has a very large supply of Sitka Spruce tonewood for sale. This tonewood comes from very large blow downs that range from 4-8 foot on the butt cut. This wood is all AAA-AAAA and I sell it for 1400$ a cord and ship it a half cord at a time for 700$ and the buyer pays the shipping. I can also send you a very large bolt that weights from 80 to 110 pounds for 50$ and the buyer pays the shipping. I have been cutting tomber wood products on the Pacific West Coast for over 40 years and this wood I ship is very good quality. My company is located in Ketchikan, Alaska. I hope your company is interested in this wood. Thank you. John
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Re: Sitka Spruce tonewood
Please do not even think about sending this guy your money. I know 3 builders who have been completely ripped off from this guy. If you are lucky enough to get wood from him it will not be the quality you expect. The wood we received was complete garbage. It was suppose to be "Superior Master Grade" and what we received wouldn't pass for 2A from any reputible tonewood supplier. The most expensive firewood I ever bought.
nice for a fireplace
If you like waiting 18 months, receiving psychotic emails filled with lies and insults, and eventually getting wavy, expensive spruce... then by all means John McCray is your man.
www.alaskatonewwod.com
John McCray has stolen money he recieved from me for several "masterclass" cedar tops. All the bad posts you see about him parallel my experience--he is an internet bandit--not to be trusted. Aside from this he is good at sending insane foul messages, threatening phone calls and and leaving foul phone messages. This guy is a petty criminal! I often wonder how many have been duped by this malefactor.
Re: Sitka Spruce tonewood
: Please do not even think about sending this guy your money. I know 3 builders who have been completely ripped off from this guy. If you are lucky enough to get wood from him it will not be the quality you expect. The wood we received was complete garbage. It was suppose to be "Superior Master Grade" and what we received wouldn't pass for 2A from any reputible tonewood supplier. The most expensive firewood I ever bought.
You should of told me about this but instead you go on the internet to spill your lies. You could of wrote back and I would given you a load of tonewood for half price. But instead you just want to cut throats instead of building guitars and becoming a real luthier. Typical person who does not know wood and could care less. Just lies and cut throat. Not wanting to build a solid guitat but just lies and cut throat. Your 2% of my buyers and 95% of our problems. People that cant build a guitar and just want to bitch. Go get a job ass-hole. John of www.alaskatonewood.com
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: : Please do not even think about sending this guy your money. I know 3 builders who have been completely ripped off from this guy. If you are lucky enough to get wood from him it will not be the quality you expect. The wood we received was complete garbage. It was suppose to be "Superior Master Grade" and what we received wouldn't pass for 2A from any reputible tonewood supplier. The most expensive firewood I ever bought.
John McCray of Alaska tonewoods is a petty thief--I am just one of the ones he has duped (stolen money) from. Ordered and paid for several "masterclass tops" --got nothing but threats and foul mouthed messages. Buyer beware--this man and his business cannot be trusted.
Re: Sitka Spruce tonewood
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SITKA SPRUCE TONEWOOD
:MY COMPANY HAS SITKA SPRUCE TONEWOOD FOR SALE. THIS TONEWOOD COMES FROM VERY LARGE BLOW DOWNS. THEY RANGE FROM 4FT TO 8FT ON THE BUTT CUT. THIS WOOD IS ALL A AA 3A and MASTER GRADE WE SELL IT FOR $1450 A CORD. I SHIP A HALF CORD AT A TIME FOR $725 PLUS THE BUYER PAYS SHIPPING. I CAN ALSO SEND YOU A VERY LARGE BOLT THAT WEIGHS FROM 80 TO 110 POUNDS FOR $50 PLUS SHIPPING. I CAN SEND YOU ANY AMOUNT YOU WANT. I HAVE BEEN CUTTING TIMBER PRODUCTS ON THE PACIFIC WEST COAST FOR OVER 40 YEARS AND THIS WOOD I SHIP IS EXCELLENT QUALITY. I AM LOCATED IN KETCHIKAN ALASKA. I LOOK FORWARD TO DOING BUSINESS WITH YOU. JOHN MCCRAY
Buyer Beware
I have found numerous post around the internet from people that John has ripped off. It seems He either doesn't send the wood or sends poor quality. It looks like He rarely sends what is advertised.
Here's one of many examples floating around the internet if you search for it.
-----Original Message-----
From: Colorado Luthiers
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 3:19 PM
To: John McCray
Subject: RE: bolts
John,
I think what would make us happy at this end would be a schedule of when you plan to ship our additional 8 bolts. At least we'd know what to expect. Please let me know what you can do here.
Colorado Luthiers
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 15:58:02 -0800
From: John McCray
Reply-To: John McCray
Subject: RE: bolts
To: Colorado Luthiers
I am going to send your wood and that is the end of the business deals forever. Kiss my *ss all of you. I do not need this pissy-*ss sh*t from a bunch of low life greeny luthiers. You want your wood now. Send me money for
air mail and it will be there in a day or so. Otherwise shut the f**k up you comie. Or I will not ship anything to you this year. John
Buyer Beware
I have found numerous post around the internet from people that John has ripped off. It seems He either doesn't send the wood or sends poor quality. It loks like He rarely sends what is advertised.
-----Original Message-----
From: Colorado Luthiers
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 3:19 PM
To: John McCray
Subject: RE: bolts
John,
I think what would make us happy at this end would be a schedule of when you plan to ship our additional 8 bolts. At least we'd know what to expect. Please let me know what you can do here.
Colorado Luthiers
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 15:58:02 -0800
From: John McCray
Reply-To: John McCray
Subject: RE: bolts
To: Colorado Luthiers
I am going to send your wood and that is the end of the business deals forever. Kiss my *ss all of you. I do not need this pissy-*ss sh*t from a bunch of low life greeny luthiers. You want your wood now. Send me money for
air mail and it will be there in a day or so. Otherwise shut the f**k up you comie. Or I will not ship anything to you this year. John
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