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gden1



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 5:50 pm    Post subject: Metal amps Reply with quote

Is there a better metal amp than a peavey xxx with a 1960a marshall cab?
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lee_UK
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

probably....somewhere.
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huba2006



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

personaly i think it doesnt matter about the amp but it is the effects you have.
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1bassleft
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you set "bottom, body and hair" contols to 0, is this the same as a "back, crack and sack" wax? Razz
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lee_UK
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

huba2006 wrote:
personaly i think it doesnt matter about the amp but it is the effects you have.


and its not the quality of effects you have but the amount that counts,
HE WHO DIES WITH THE MOST GEAR WINS !!

you can never have too many effects pedals,

and i like your post Bassleft, very good, almost spinal tapest in motion.
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rewindspline
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 1:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

huba2006 wrote:
personaly i think it doesnt matter about the amp but it is the effects you have.



you can't be serious - of course the amp matters

idiot
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1bassleft
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 2:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Coolio.

I've tried lots of FX, and I've tried none but the trustiest amp. Each works, in their own way.

Neither type becomes a de facto idiot. This started as a 'metal' thread, so I'd lean towards the necessity for some pedal at least out front, but that's my coupla pfennigs.
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rewindspline
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 5:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i should qualify my previous statement...

the amp matters live because no pedal will sound better than an angry marshall or mesa cranked

the amp matters in the studio because you can get awesome sounds from small amps as well as big amps

the only real discussion you could have in this post is whether tube amps or solid state amps are better for metal
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lee_UK
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rewindspline wrote:

the only real discussion you could have in this post is whether tube amps or solid state amps are better for metal


Are there any Metal bands that use SS Amps?? im not a big metal fan, but as far is i see from videos, they all seem to use Marshall / Messa / Peavey / and those big German sweaty 200 watters, cant remeber their name.... anyway, name a couple of pure SS amps, i'd like to know what they are, maybe the line6 stuff?
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1bassleft
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I avoid playing through SS if at all possible, and that's bass. I had one of those 'multiband' gigs and spent a lot of time persuading others to use my amp as the bass backline. The usual sceptical comments, "lack of headroom", "too much distortion", "call this a preamp section?"

After everyone played, though, I got no complaints and a lot of "wow, I want one" stuff. There has been a fashion (in general, not just bass) for rack preamp and separate power amp that may or may not be valve. It depends on your 'metal'. Some people think Def Leppard is metal. OTOH, noise regs and H+S and lawsuits being what they are, I know a lot of players who can't even get their 100W amps going and have to use attenuators.

Mustard mitt, I can't think of any serious guitar player's amp that's all SS made these days. Personally, I don't go with the hybrids that think only the 12AX7 has to distort; I like the sag from power tubes too. For a really inyerface overdrive, I don't hear that in many amps; pedals do better. Even then, I've tried transistor and digital FX and they don't work for me. They're too middle/trebly and the bass goes AWOL. I had a Boss that was alright, and a Peavey multi-thing that definitely isn't. I've been using my guitarist's Matchless Dirtbox and "Ohhh mama" but the darn thing costs.
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