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    upsidedown
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    helo everyone,i was just wondering,before i go about it the wrong way how i should learn guitar
    Im right-handed but cannot bend the top joint on my left hand 3rd finger(next to little finger) because of an old rugby injury.
    obviously this aint no good for the fret. i bought an acoustic guitar today i will have to play left handed which seems a bit odd after 25 years of right handed air guitar playin but i suppose il get use to it. My mates have given me some tabs but iv got the thin strings at the top coz iv just flipped the guitar over so the tabs are confusing.Should i get the strings moved or just forget it and buy an electric left-hander???
    thanks for any replies 😕

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    • #66388
      1bassleft
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      [quote]i’m lefty playing right handed without too many problems [/quote]

      Which variety, noodle? Do you play strings reversed or do you mean you strum with right and fret with left? The latter is just too weird for me.

    • #66383
      noodle69
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      hi

      i’m lefty playing right handed without too many problems

      http://www.soundclick.com/balthazaar

      ^proof

      when im bending strings i virtually always use my 2nd and 3rd simultaneously which makes it a whole lot easier

    • #66401
      Rocklogicxxxxx
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      [quote=”1bassleft”]Dave! How very good to read you here again. Please have a look in the “fave riffs” thread of the bass section. I think you’ll know the “Starless” bit of Wetton’s and describe it better than I did.

      Back on this thread, Upsidedown and I have swapped PMs and his acoutic is not major-expense so a purpose-lefty is being looked for. Good point, Dave, I’d forgotten the lack of side-dot markers on a flipped righty. That can be a real pain when playing strapped and stood up :cry:[/quote]

      Thanks 1bass.. I’ve taken a shufty in the bass forum….

      Some further points… The strutting inside an acoustic is designed for tonal reasons and not just structural ones and swapping the strings around will not really have that much effect on the front. I still use my old (right-handed but strung left-handed) Eko Ranger 6 and the bridge angle is all wrong. Not only does it not compensate for the string thicknesses but it doubles the compensation the wrong way! So you tune the instrument to work in the lower positions which is just about bareable and ok for a beginner, which I was when I bought it aged 13 and a budding John Renbourn(e).

      The Shaftesbury Berney Kessel was ok as it had a floating bridge and could be angled accurately. Unfortunately, the neck was so narrow and the strings were so close together that it was very difficult to play having developed my technique on the Eko. Othe than that it was a nice guitar.

    • #66385
      1bassleft
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      Dave! How very good to read you here again. Please have a look in the “fave riffs” thread of the bass section. I think you’ll know the “Starless” bit of Wetton’s and describe it better than I did.

      Back on this thread, Upsidedown and I have swapped PMs and his acoutic is not major-expense so a purpose-lefty is being looked for. Good point, Dave, I’d forgotten the lack of side-dot markers on a flipped righty. That can be a real pain when playing strapped and stood up 😥

    • #66422
      Rocklogicxxxxx
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      [quote=”1bassleft”]Hmmm, this isn’t the easiest one, as there’s no definite answer. I’m a natural lefty, play bass left-handed but (because all my mate’s guitars were righty) play guitar upside-down. If it gives you something to aim for, two very able guitarists (Robert Fripp and Mark Knopfler) are left-handers who play right-handed guitar just as an righty would. On the downside, lefties adapt to right-handedness baetter bacause we just have to. It’s a lot more unusual for the righty.

      Seeing as you’re starting out, I can’t see any advantage to learning with the strings the wrong way round. As you say, all the chord diagrams will need reversing and a lot of those chords (except for some strange jazz things) are a lot easier the correct way.

      Apart from flipping the strings, you’ll need to do a couple of things. The nut (plastic thing the strings sit in at the end of the neck) will need to be replaced or at least recut. The thick E will not sit in the slot designed for the top E. Secondly, you see how your bridge is slightly slanted? It will have to be slanted the opposite way for intonation (keeping each string in tune all the way up the neck). You might feel like it’s easier to sell off the righty and buy a purpose lefty acoustic or electric, but find out how much a local guitar person will charge to do the swapover if you don’t feel like you can get it right.[/quote]

      A couple of points here…

      ….. if you go the leftie route you’ll find that reversing chord diagrams will become quite normal after a short time.

      My recomendation is that you get a left hander and start from there. It’ll save a lot of heart ache, frustration and money down the line should you wish to change to the orthodox leftie way.

      Flipping a right handed guitar over to play left handed is a real pain. Along with re-cutting the nut and re-angling the bridge (not so easy on an accoustic) you’ll find that the position dots on the side edge of the neck are missing, trem arms can be irritatingly in the wrong place, as is the case with volume tone controls, and access to the upper frets is reduced ( in the case of electrics).

      There are a lot of very good entry level guitars around for left handers and you don’t have to pay a fortune.

      Good luck

      Dave

    • #66406
      glw
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      I’d be wary of changing the stringing on a good quality acoustic from right-handed to left-handed, as it can play merry hell with the internal bracing and you could end up with a warped top. (I say “good-quality” because I assume you don’t want to wreck it! If it’s a cheapie – then give it a try by all means.)

      The guitar may look symmetrical on the outside, but that doesn’t mean it’s the same case on the inside!

    • #66375
      1bassleft
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      Hmmm, this isn’t the easiest one, as there’s no definite answer. I’m a natural lefty, play bass left-handed but (because all my mate’s guitars were righty) play guitar upside-down. If it gives you something to aim for, two very able guitarists (Robert Fripp and Mark Knopfler) are left-handers who play right-handed guitar just as an righty would. On the downside, lefties adapt to right-handedness baetter bacause we just have to. It’s a lot more unusual for the righty.

      Seeing as you’re starting out, I can’t see any advantage to learning with the strings the wrong way round. As you say, all the chord diagrams will need reversing and a lot of those chords (except for some strange jazz things) are a lot easier the correct way.

      Apart from flipping the strings, you’ll need to do a couple of things. The nut (plastic thing the strings sit in at the end of the neck) will need to be replaced or at least recut. The thick E will not sit in the slot designed for the top E. Secondly, you see how your bridge is slightly slanted? It will have to be slanted the opposite way for intonation (keeping each string in tune all the way up the neck). You might feel like it’s easier to sell off the righty and buy a purpose lefty acoustic or electric, but find out how much a local guitar person will charge to do the swapover if you don’t feel like you can get it right.

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