Best Stones Song

Why is it that some people think I'm crazy because I think Angie is their best? Rather, what makes so many people dislike it?

Apart from Wild Horses - the lyrics can hardly be beat. Very true I think.

/Edited to add some reasoning/

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My faves are "You Can't Always Get What You Want", "Sympathy For The Devil" and "Gimme Shelter". Must've liked that Mick Taylor period.

glw wrote:
My faves are "You Can't Always Get What You Want", "Sympathy For The Devil" and "Gimme Shelter". Must've liked that Mick Taylor period.

Sympathy for the devil was a 68' release, Jones was well and truley still in the band at that time, Remember the film released about the making of that song?? ive seen it a few times its very good.
It was on the Beggars Banquet LP.

The other 2 i beleive are neither Jones nor Taylor, Jones had been sacked and most of the recording of Let it Bleed was complete by the time Taylor joined, i think he had an involvement in a couple of sessions but not those 2 tracks.

Most of the guitar work you hear on Beggars Banquet and Let it Bleed was all done by Keef.
Jones was in a drug induced stupor during most of those sessions.
The first proper recording that Taylor played on was 'Get yer ya ya's out' (see my Avatar) released in 1970 but recorded on the ill fated 69' tour of US,
and that is my Fav all time Stones LP, (i have 2 Vinyl copies - 1st one wore out, and also 2 CD's, one original and one remastered) i agree, they were a better band with Taylor, but more creative with Jones, but i go for the Taylor period,
after all he was on my 2nd fav of all time, Exile on Main st.
What a blues jam that is!!

As is so often the case, the market has spoken on this issue, and the "best" (which means the most purchased and played) Stones song is "Satisfaction."

As any musician knows, a song can be perfect, but sell not at all. Something in a song captures the imagination of the public, and that's what causes it to be popular. If it were possible to analyze and repeat that "capture," all songs would be equally good, equally popular, and equally financially succesful.

"Sympathy for the Devil" runs a close second. Have you heard the "Angie" parody, entitled "Angie...oplasty?"

Blimey! My Stones knowledge is rubbish, innit, guv?

glw wrote:
Blimey! My Stones knowledge is rubbish, innit, guv?

If you like that 68-69 stones style get yourself a copy of Ya ya's, the guitar work on that is stunning.
That was recorded i think over 2 nights at madison sq garden, and it
was the stones at their blues peak.
Of course on that tour was the Altamont speedway free gig, there was a rare and brilliant documentry made called 'Gimme Shelter' and shows the
Altamont gig and fatal stabbing of an audience member.

End of the hippy love era and the start of a Stones blues revival fronted by Mick Taylor.

Well, that's a thread-downer, Lee. Altamont reminds me of Charlie Watkins (WEM)'s experience. Once people started climbing over the fence and waggling knives to assert the "free festival" idea; he'd had enough. Look at Glastonbury now; full of tent-sifting gobshites stretching PJ Proudhon's "Property is Theft" philosophy to suit their own slimey ends.

Back to the Stones, I see what Mike Blanche is saying but, melodically, "Satisfaction" is a great riff wrapped in a rubbish, limited vocal melody. "Gimme Shelter" is probably the most interesting song they've done.

No doubt what you say is true about Satisfaction. A great riff carried "Smoke On the Water" to popularity, and I can teach that riff to a 9-year-old kid in less than a minute.

Which, I think, is what I said. Something about a song will "catch" you, and that's that.

Now, we could discuss great musical writing, great lyrics, etc., but the songs that would demonstrate those skills would rarely be "great songs."

1bassleft wrote:

Back to the Stones, I see what Mike Blanche is saying but, melodically, "Satisfaction" is a great riff wrapped in a rubbish, limited vocal melody. "Gimme Shelter" is probably the most interesting song they've done.

Rubbish?? Satisfaction?? umm, it's not my favourite stones tune, a three note riff thats been radio played to death, but it is a great song, lyrically its right up there, singing about that subject in 1965 was a first, it had only been hinted at in songs, but the stones were the first to take it to number 1 in US and UK.
Melodicaly its not the greatest i agree, but its not rubbish.
I also think that people forget just how many great songs they recorded,
the 40 licks CD just scratches the surface.
Have a look at the stones discography.

Michael wrote:
Why is it that some people think I'm crazy because I think Angie is their best? Rather, what makes so many people dislike it?

Apart from Wild Horses - the lyrics can hardly be beat. Very true I think.

/Edited to add some reasoning/

Angie is a great song Mike, nothing wrong with it.
Wild horses like you say is better, did you know it was recorded with 4 guitars? the main opening guitar is tuned to 'Nashville tuning' , which i think all the strings were tuned up an octave!! and then he used a capo on the 10th fret.
Nice sound, another interesting sound is from 'Street fighting man' , the opening riff was recorded by using a steel string (i think a hummingbird) by keith, he recorded it into a tape machine, then played it back through a mic in a studio but pushed the volume to the top so it overdrove the output sound.

Sorry to bore you all to tears but the stones are my passion, my first rememberd LP was 'It's only Rock'n'Roll' .

lee_UK wrote:
Michael wrote:
Why is it that some people think I'm crazy because I think Angie is their best? Rather, what makes so many people dislike it?

Apart from Wild Horses - the lyrics can hardly be beat. Very true I think.

/Edited to add some reasoning/

Angie is a great song Mike, nothing wrong with it.
Wild horses like you say is better, did you know it was recorded with 4 guitars? the main opening guitar is tuned to 'Nashville tuning' , which i think all the strings were tuned up an octave!! and then he used a capo on the 10th fret.
Nice sound, another interesting sound is from 'Street fighting man' , the opening riff was recorded by using a steel string (i think a hummingbird) by keith, he recorded it into a tape machine, then played it back through a mic in a studio but pushed the volume to the top so it overdrove the output sound.

Sorry to bore you all to tears but the stones are my passion, my first rememberd LP was 'It's only Rock'n'Roll' .

Angie, and honty honk , and -->> http://d55.yousendit.com/F/2KT3V1F35CXR10MVZVI28FW038/stone_New.mp3 i playing because i don'y know the name ..

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