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    Michael
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    “Pink Floyd’s the Wall is arguably one of the most intriguing and imaginative albums in the history of rock music. Since its release in 1979, and the subsequent movie of 1982, the Wall has become synonymous with, if not the very definition of, the term “concept album.” Aureally explosive on record and visually explosive on the screen, the Wall traces the life of the fictional protagoinst, Pink Floyd, from his boyhood days in war-torn England to his self-imposed isolation as a world-renowned rock star, leading to a climax that is as questionably cathartic as it is destructive.”

    All at: http://home.mchsi.com/~ttint/

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    • #68794
      lee_UK
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      Money?? 7/4 time, but the solo is played in 4/4, great album, that one would go in my top 10 of all time.
      I love gilmours style he definatly has the ‘Touch’, Peter Green is another in his catagory.

    • #68827
      USGold
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      that would be “money” from dark side

    • #68848
      lee_UK
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      Except in this case ‘The Machine’ was a cash register.

      Kerching!

    • #68810
      USGold
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      Wasn’t it Floyd themselves that said it all in “Welcome to the machine”?

    • #68819
      1bassleft
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      😆 . FYI, Greg Lake was the original bass player and singer for “Court of the Crimson King”. Resident ‘poet’ Pete Sinfield (I didn’t think much of his lyrics) went one step further than Fripp. He later wrote the lyrics for a Buck’s Fizz hit; “Land of Make Believe” 🙂

    • #68816
      lee_UK
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      [quote=”USGold”]Brings to mind an interesting direction for this or a new thread, namely sharing opinions concerning the 70’s bands with the high end engineered sounds–such as early to mid Yes, ELP,Journey,Styxx,that whole genre of smooth,skilled ,well engineered bands whose sound was only possible with the recording techniques that had just become available at that time.[/quote]

      Im not a lover of ELP, but i can recognise excellent musicians when i hear them. Cant remember which one of ELP was a founder member of King Crimson along with Robert Fripp, but i dont htink that music relied on recording and production tecniques, it was totaly unique, i think Crimson started in 69′ and there was nothing before it, you cant trace that music back to blues or classical or jazz, it had no origins.

      I used to think Fripp was a pretty cool guy, but then he went and spoiled it all by marrying Toyah, now that really is a Mystery.

    • #68799
      Tim
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      Recorded music is always a balancing act between performance and production. Nobody loved to twidle the knobs more more than Hendrix (listen to Axis or Ladyland) but his playing was still inspirational. Dito The Beatles many a pioneering studio technique but still fantastic as a straight up four-piece. I personally dislike production that swamps the artist’s performance, Human Beings play bum-notes every now and again, well thats my excuse anyway.

    • #68838
      USGold
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      Brings to mind an interesting direction for this or a new thread, namely sharing opinions concerning the 70’s bands with the high end engineered sounds–such as early to mid Yes, ELP,Journey,Styxx,that whole genre of smooth,skilled ,well engineered bands whose sound was only possible with the recording techniques that had just become available at that time.

    • #68788
      Rocklogicxxxxx
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      [quote=”noodle69″]yeah !!

      personally i prefer their earlier albums such as relics , far more inventive and much less commercial since they had not found their formula for pumping out one album after the next , which had different pictures on the front but , somehow , were too similar !!!

      :wink:[/quote]

      Some years ago I was asked to take over the bass chair in a Floyd tribute band. I was sent a tape of the material and then set to work learning the stuff. Some hours later if found that I was not retaining any of the pieces and wondered what was going on as I have an excellent musical memory and this I how I’ve earned my living for years.

      I was worried that my usually infallible abilities were failing me so I sat and pondered. Then I got it… it all sounds the same! no wonder it’s not going in… it’s all the same!

      So I phoned the departing bass player at 11.15pm and woke him with the news that I was not going to be doing the gig.

      He found a drummer that loved Floyd who also played the bass and sang… and I’ve heard the recorded results and they are terrific.

      The original bass player is now with Rick Wakeman. Not sure if this is a step up musically but, on the old “Wonga” stakes there ……

      .

    • #68793
      noodle69
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      yeah !!

      people get a bit too carried away with pink floyd – i think !!!

      the wall was ok , but if you not british , then there would be very little to relate to !

      they used all the tricks in the marketing book to sell it (ram it down our throats)
      i’m not from the same generation and find it a bit boring to watch the whole thing in 1 go !

      personally i prefer their earlier albums such as relics , far more inventive and much less commercial since they had not found their formula for pumping out one album after the next , which had different pictures on the front but , somehow , were too similar !!!

      😉

    • #68803
      1bassleft
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      Would I be alone in thinking that “Animals” is a brilliant, sometimes under-rated album? I’ve always held it up high.

    • #68789
      USGold
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      Personally I think Floyd went about as far with the sound they were using there as they could with the Animals album. The Wall sounded like left overs -contained about three or four interesting songs on a double LP, not a very good average for what was considered one of the premier bands in the world at the time. In a word I would call it dissapointing at best.

    • #68856
      Michael
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      😆

      And as for Gimour’s new album – predictably bland.

    • #68850
      1bassleft
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      I read Geldof’s ’86 autobiog, Is That It? and it was quite funny, reading about when his agent was persuading him to take the main role. In the back of the car, Geldof was all, “Get a load of this… We don’t need no education… typical poncey, middle-class posh school w**kers” etc etc.

      It turned out the car’s driver was related to one of the Floyd’s members but he still got the part.

    • #68791
      mrblanche
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      Even Waters is, allegedly, disavowing the movie of The Wall, and is talking to people about a new one. Taking another bite of the apple?

      I’ve heard Gilmour’s new album, and I’m not impressed, for some reason. I’ve also read the interview with him in May’s Guitar World.

      Sirius radio had a whole week of “All Floyd, All the Time” a couple of weeks on their “Vault” channel.

    • #68811
      lee_UK
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      [quote=”Michael”]”Pink Floyd’s the Wall is arguably one of the most intriguing and imaginative albums in the history of rock music. Since its release in 1979, and the subsequent movie of 1982, the Wall has become synonymous with, if not the very definition of, the term “concept album.” Aureally explosive on record and visually explosive on the screen, the Wall traces the life of the fictional protagoinst, Pink Floyd, from his boyhood days in war-torn England to his self-imposed isolation as a world-renowned rock star, leading to a climax that is as questionably cathartic as it is destructive.”

      All at: http://home.mchsi.com/~ttint/%5B/quote%5D

      So say you.

      This is of course one persons opinion.

      The Wall is about as interesting as erm… a wall.
      Middle class nonsense from middle class bufoons, the nearest this lot came to one of Adolfs Doodlebugs in WW2 was about 200 miles.
      Floyd are the piles on the backside of humanity…

      Only joking Mike.. 😆

    • #68835
      Michael
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      Heard Gilmours new album?

    • #68796
      1bassleft
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      Alternative analysis from 1BL;

      “By now, Roger Waters’ ego was firmly crammed up his own backside”

      To think I used to get paid by the word as a freelancer… 🙂

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