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boogieman · Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 12:12 am Post subject:

You are right on man !! Have to live the Blues to really feel it and preach it from your soul. If you are in to Robert that much you should listen to the guy that really got Robert in to Blues guitar and the kind of tone he uses. The guy is a close friend of mine. His name is Lloyd Jones. He is from Portland, Oregon. Get some of his stuff and you will hear where Robert came from. The band is The Lloyd Jones Struggle.

JLR

1bassleft · Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 1:33 am Post subject:

I looked up this good website:

http://www.lloydjonesmusic.com/index.html

but it's too late in the night for me to play audio. Plenty to click on, though, until then.

boogieman · Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 2:20 am Post subject:

Yeah man, that is his main site. He is a great R and B singer and a very good guitar player. Never uses a pick. Plays with his thumband first finger,

1bassleft · Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 12:26 am Post subject:

Funnelly nuff, I like to use thumb/index for bass playing; especially for alternate octaves. Is this just my lousy self-taught, or is it a valid technique? I'd be interested in the ops of better-trained bass players.

boogieman · Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 2:51 am Post subject:

You are doing what a lot of the early " funk" players did. Larry Graham use to be a master of the "push down with the thumb and snap up with the first finger " style. Listen to the lines on some of Graham Central Station, and Sly Stone recodings. Great tone. As the style got more treble related and more "poppy", he had to change with the times , which is a shame. He simply sounds like one of the zillion whack, slap, poppers in the world today.He was, at one time, a real inovater.

Tim · Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 5:56 pm Post subject:

1bassleft wrote:

Funnelly nuff, I like to use thumb/index for bass playing; especially for alternate octaves. Is this just my lousy self-taught, or is it a valid technique? I'd be interested in the ops of better-trained bass players.

I've been doing this for a few months now and it does sound good for some applications, my fingers are just getting strong enough to get the timing right with this technique, suffered with feeble plec-hand for a while. Not that I'm a better-trained bassist (or trained at all for that matter) but if it sounds cool...

1bassleft · Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 1:52 am Post subject:

Boogieman, the thing that annoys me about a lot of funk bass players (like Chic's Bernie) is that it sounds so dang difficult yet, when they're on TV, they hardly seem to move their hands Confused

The alternate-octave plucking I was on about (very '80s sounding) is most recently illustrated by The Bravery on the track "Honest Mistake":
http://www6.islandrecords.com/thebravery/site/music.php

and (I said it sounded '80s) also appears a bit in Duran Duran's "Planet Earth". As a mostly-picker, I find that thumb-index works well enough to do this kind of bassline, but I know JohnTaylor was/is accomplished in the proper finger-stylee. Unfortunately, the video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzqIiFBmdHs) doesn't show the 4-stringing at the right time. Check out those pantaloons of le Bon's, though Shocked

. Also, Taylor's using a Rick 4001 in the vid but, surely, it's a prop. Even with finger stylee, that sounds nothing like a 4001?

boogieman · Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 3:54 am Post subject:

First guy I ever heard live doing that was Bill Wyman when I first heard the Stones live in 1966. He used it a lot through the years. His bass line in Miss You is a fine example.

1bassleft · Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:21 am Post subject:

"Miss You" -yep, you're absolutely right, Boogieman. The same sort of bass technique as used by Duran and The Bravery. I'm going on memory, because I didn't find an easy video download, but I can hear those alternate octave pickings in my head. If anyone can provide a link to "Miss You" that doesn't require a credit card and retinal scan, post the link here and I'll thank you for the info.

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