does this look right to you?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Black-Gibson-Les-Paul-Custom-NR-Black-Beauty_W0QQitemZ280018128784QQihZ018QQcategoryZ47072QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

very odd shape body, and look at the headstock? i think it's one of those buyer beware guitars.
Guy has 152 sales though, but looks very odd.



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Well i think it's the guy selling it, i think he took a 'Vantage' LP copy into his shed, reved up the Router and did a Norm Abram on it, maybe a respray aferwards, this looks like a conversion rather than a production line out of hours run.

Good point. Hadn't thought of that scenario, with a bit more practice I reckon he could turn out some fairly decent knock-offs.

Have you noticed, also, that the "Gibson" logo is too thick? Like he scanned it then accidentally clicked on "bold"...

Now, at the risk of more sniggering from Lee, I do keep an eye out for Fender Mustangs (for the 1000th time, Lee, the real ones - not the Sunn Mustang "by Fender"). Anyhoo, the very sharp eyed may notice tiny discrepancies from the usual 70s Mustang with this German eBay example:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/E-Gitarre-Fender-Mustang_W0QQitemZ220021725332QQihZ012QQcategoryZ46647QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

For the record, our freund states only that it has a few marks in the lacquer :lol:

I've gotta admit, I quite like the look of that "Mustang". It's obviously a custom job. I wonder if they are original Fender parts?

1bassleft wrote:
Have you noticed, also, that the "Gibson" logo is too thick? Like he scanned it then accidentally clicked on "bold"...

Now, at the risk of more sniggering from Lee, I do keep an eye out for Fender Mustangs (for the 1000th time, Lee, the real ones - not the Sunn Mustang "by Fender"). Anyhoo, the very sharp eyed may notice tiny discrepancies from the usual 70s Mustang with this German eBay example:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/E-Gitarre-Fender-Mustang_W0QQitemZ220021725332QQihZ012QQcategoryZ46647QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

For the record, our freund states only that it has a few marks in the lacquer :lol:

Whats the problem with the Fender bass?

Alas, the vintage guitar market has been pretty much ruined. There are so many bad fakes out there you can only wonder how many really really good fakes there are. Probably more than we imagine. :cry:

That new "Gibson" is a despicable thing to do to someone. That story sounds so contrived that I wouldn't have touched it no matter what it looked like.

Where to start on this "Mustang"

:?: :?

Well, it isn't what he says it is, a 1970s Mustang guitar; this is a beat-up, genuine example:

Maybe the body once was (Mustangs are often stripped for their parts and bodies float like jetsam on ebay for $100 or less). Humbuckers at the bridge were only ever put into the Japanese re-issues for the Cobain wannabes so this is either a RI or a hacker. The stop-tail, whammy and saddles unit has gone, replaced by Gawd-knows-what. The string-thru body is somebody's idea. At least it looks like the bridge has been chosen and sited with a mind to the fact that a DEFINITELY NOT Mustang neck has been fitted.

The Mustang has a 24" scale and was never given a reverse-headstock, even as a RI. This is, I'd bet a 25.5" scale neck and almost certainly not even Fender. The logo colour is all wrong, the word "Mustang" has no "speed marks". The tuners and string guides aren't right. Look at the obvious rub-down applied to the headstock so that the ink-jet transfer could be slid on. Maybe those pups are nice aftermarket Specials but, given the rest of the botchup, I doubt it. They could easily be from an Indian Sunn with nice plastic covers from guitarpartsresource.

Of course, there's no "F" neckplate with a serial number (another valuable part that'll have been sold off). Even the knobs are wrong and, underneath, the pots will not have 70s codes. The control plate is cheap to get.

Quite rightly, someone has now asked if it is original and (even more percipient) playable. The reply that it is playable and "I don't know, it's the same as how I got it" means he's a fool or a liar. Frankly, I wouldn't touch this turkey even for the 120 euros it's currently at.

The reverse headstock should have given it away, but once you posted up the original 70's the differences were unmissable.
But having said all that, it does look like a nice guitar, i like the green and the upside down neck, one thing that is nice about Mustangs is the fret access up the neck, very Strat like. Do they hold their tune? the bridge looks more fragile than Ellen Macarthur in a force 9.
But you cant beat the stripes for the cool factor, just a pity that your arm covers most of it when you are playing it.

The education on the Gibson was great. Thanks!

Now...have you noticed the seller of the Gibson has no feedback as a seller?

It just gets darker and darker doesnt it.
I did message and e-mail everyone on that bidding list to warn them of a 'potential' scam.
If you notice on the bid list, there were expierienced guitar buyers/sellers bidding on it.

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