Could we have a listen to the sound of your acoustics?

Hello
I really would like to listen to your Martin,Taylor,Tacoma,...Seagull...etc.
If you own a good microphone, are you ok for posting a short sample?
This thread could be very helpful for those looking for a specific guitar sound.

I cannot guess if you will participate...I start :
Lakewood D14-CP / recorded with the external mics of a Zoom H4.
http://guitarlover.free.fr/Kidz-club.mp3

(the kind of piece I play when my daughter doesn't want to sleep :D )

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...I guess you are thinking there's too many variables that affect the way the sample sounds as compared to the actual sound of the guitar.

......not a good idea....

Way too many, is it the guitar that sounds good? maybe it was the mic? or the recorder? post effects? valve preamp? Mastering? my head hurts.

I like the idea because I enjoy listening to your playing, Guy. A lot of others would be less confident (I'd be one of those "apologies in advance for my terrible playing etc" types).

The biggest technical drawback, though, defeats even the above variables; the awful effect of file compression when punting mp3s up and down the bandwidth. On a vintage amps forum, a mod put up a "can you tell the difference between this modeller and two classic valve amps?" thread, using the same kit to record. I could, just about, because I am a total valve-sniffing bore of the first magnitude. HST, all three clips sounded terrible from a tone point of view. I own a Superbass and a Bogen-derived 6L6 (the two valve amps used) and I barely recognized them in the clips.

Similarly, I'd suspect, with subtle things like different acoustic guitars. Clips are OK for obvious changes in style, but they're not so clear in tone nuances. I listened in to a manufacturer's Hi-Q clips (Matchless DC30, IIRC) which was better, but that's a lot of bandwidth I think.

lee_UK wrote:
maybe it was the mic?

.....Hmmm
Here's a test for you : the same piece recorded with the same guitar and...33 different mics.
http://www.thelisteningsessions.com/session5.htm
Are you able to tell me what is the best mic?..I am not!!
To my ears they sound similar ...probably because of the mp3 compression,but I am sure that if they had used the same mic with 33 different guitars I would have heard the difference.

The idea was to give an idea of the sound of the different acoustics (dread,jumbo,.000size....etc).There is so many people ordering their guitar on the internet without trying it before...I wouldn't !But sometimes they don't have shops close to their location.

No effects at all , to get a sound as much natural as possible.I know that everybody doesn't own two $5000 Neumann mics.
For example many people are looking for infos about the Guild GAD-30 ,pretty nice and affordable.
This is a sample sent and played by a friend of mine, it was recorded with a $70 (used) SM58 mic and Mixcraft ($40 software).
http://guitarlover.free.fr/Sample-GAD-30.mp3

Your opinion?Sounds like a Guild?

Where are you acoustic players? I DON'T SEE YOU!!!!!!HELP!!!!!! :D

I'll try to put something up here ASAP, but I'll need to borrow a decent mic first as I generally record with undersaddle pickups on all my acoustics (as I'm only usually recording to remember stuff).

It might be a valid thing to post up samples using both mic and pickup to compare.

Watch this space.

That's an interesting link, Guy. It is difficult to make comparisons, and I think that mp3 clips make it harder than "being there", but I did notice something:

I clicked on about 8 of them and listened carefully. To me, the Behringer (and I do think Behringer offer good VFM) sounded dull, flat and lifeless. The protube (or whatever it was called) had an emphasis on the lower mids that valve amplification often has. It wasn't my favourite for the L'arrivee, even if it might have worked well for another source.

What do others think?

MP3 compression saps the life out of any recording, it's great for a convenient way to access your record collection, but you pay the price with poor audio quality, you don't hear the difference so much with a personal MP3/CD player or computer playback, but if you put that same MP3 source through a decent hi-fi the sound difference between MP3 vs CD and Vinyl is very clear.
MP3 was developed as a way of compressing audio sound files to a size that could be easily transmitted over the internet and stored on a local drive, but with the vast increase in speeds over the internet and development of massive storage devices is there any need for MP3 compression?
But i suppose most people would rather have 65,000 compressed tracks than 600 uncompressed, i know which one i would choose.

There is still a need, because a 13-song CD can still amount to around 500Mb and that's a long wait even with 8Mbps connection (not that you achieve anything like). As you say, Lee, it's primarily about kids carting 5,000 songs on a little stick with earphones.

Even on this laptop with crummy one-inch speakers, the Matchless hiQ samples (only half a minute long so not an onerous d/l) were much better defined than standard webclips.

Having said all that, I do encourage people to click on Acoustica's link to his home site. There are samples of his compos that are a real pleasure to listen to; whether I could tell a Taylor from a Seagull or not, the tunes are good. Incidentally, unlike Realplayer-type stuff, it's possible to run several of his tracks simultaneously. Mixmaster :D

MicroSark wrote:
It might be a valid thing to post up samples using both mic and pickup to compare.

....hmmm
Pickup = masquerade!!
The sound is always the same and very good!

Takamine EG240 with passive pickup plugged to the H4 (a $200 guitar)=>

http://guitarlover.free.fr/matin-chagrin.mp3

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