My first post!

Hi guys, this is my first post… I own a little effect manufacturing company called ToadWorks, and to be perfectly honest, I joined this forum to get a bead on current trends, likes, dislikes, etc. in the marketplace (regardless of what some of it’s members think, Harmony Central isn’t the beginning & end of the world :).

I won’t spam, and I might contribute only occasionally (running a business takes time!), so please don’t flame me when I post… my posts will either be on-topic, or they will tell you how to get free stuff (and let’s face it, we all love free stuff.)

So, in a word, hi!



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i dont feel im backing out on anything, i still stand by my 90-10 statement, i still think a lot of the time effects are used to hide sloppy technique, and you realy cant sound like Eric Clapton when you buy his pedal, im just bored with going over the same thing, lets agree to disagree, and you dont suprise me when when you say you do a prog rock set, i bet you pack out the venues with your genesis/yes/ELP set, those records were real foot tappers, and there is nothing like hearing a 50 minute guitar solo (in its context of course).
So i think its time for bed..
(still no offence intended)

What is most strange is that both you and 1bass are prepared to type paragraphs of text but not answer my simple question.

This in itself speaks volumes and EVERYONE here can see that.

And what you fail to understand is, it's only you me and Bass that are reading this thread, everybody else went home days ago.... did'nt you notice? Hello.. anybody there?? :lol:

Out of respect to Ryan, who started this topic on a completely different thread, I have put up a new topic.

"Bassleft is a big bollock" is ready for continuation of this thing. Here on this thread, we're returning you to pedal trends and opinions...

lee_UK wrote:
And what you fail to understand is, it's only you me and Bass that are reading this thread, everybody else went home days ago.... did'nt you notice? Hello.. anybody there?? lol

Exactly 48 hours ago the views held steady at 153, today, now, at the time of writing = 289.

The numbers unfortunately disprove your theory. Sorry.

YOU added a response that plonked the thread firmly back in the public eye, it was all set to simply slide into obscurity, you even asked me to reply - YOU did this, not me.

p.s. Have a go at answering my question instead of beating yourself up all the time.

What was your question in the first place? I'd also like to take a jab at it but I'm having a little trouble determining what it even was.

Farino wrote:
What was your question in the first place? I'd also like to take a jab at it but I'm having a little trouble determining what it even was.

The question is very clearly laid out in three sections of the thread, which if you cannot find then you will have missed many important points. Lee is obviously very keen to get this all to go away as quickly as possible.

I will copy and paste the question once more, BUT you must understand that you have to have a core grasp of the key elements that have been debated thus before you wade in.
Lee is emphatic that TONE is derived from 9/10ths of what a player does with his/her fingers and only 1/10th has to do with pickups, guitar, amp etc etc. I believe the reverse, TONE is determined 9/10ths what you HOLD in your hands and what it is plugged into. I have asked many times for Lee to detail what he means (see the question below), but he refuses to answer.

As I have said, not reading the complete thead will leave lacking in information though.

The copy and paste;

I have posed a specific question and you have not even had a go at answering it.

List the ACTUAL ELEMENTS of playing that make up TONE (apart from the ones I have already that make up the 10%). Detail exactly what you mean??

OK lets take this over the Bass's post 'Bassleft1 is a big bollock'
and we will take it bit by bit.

No need.

Without wishing to appear that I am beating you up any further, it simply wouldn’t fair for those that have followed this thread that don’t know any better, to believe that accomplished guitarists wield The Force to evoke incredible tone.

Tone is unquestionably, irrefutably, undeniably, with no doubt whatsoever obtained 9/10th from equipment. There is no magical, mystical way of playing that only BB King can do, or Eric Clapton, or Kirk Hammett, or David Gilmour or anybody else. They move their hands up and down the neck just like everybody else.

This is easily proved for any doubters – the easiest way is via the internet. Go to the search engine of your choice, type ‘Guitar Tone’ and read as much as you dare to be convinced. Can’t be bothered?

Here, I’ve done it for you, taking one at random;

http//www.penmachine.com/musicpages/guitartone.html

THE SOURCE OF TONE

There are 20 points listed. Nineteen of those are equipment related, the last one being;

‘Of course, the way the guitarist plays, including whether with fingers or a pick on the strumming hand, how he or she places and moves fingers on the neck, where……..etc.’

With this in mind – if there were other elements that were player based – these would be listed, they aren’t.

So I apologise Lee, I was wrong. Technique influences tone only one 1/20th. I understand that having your map of the world forcibly reshaped is no fun, but that is the way things are.

to the thousands who are interested, this Tennis match has now moved to 'Bassleft1 is a big bollock' posting (centre court).
No rush to get there im sure this one will run and run.

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