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An Analysis of Pink Floyd's The Wall
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Rocklogicxxxxx
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

noodle69 wrote:
yeah !!

personally i prefer their earlier albums such as relics , far more inventive and much less commercial since they had not found their formula for pumping out one album after the next , which had different pictures on the front but , somehow , were too similar !!!

Wink


Some years ago I was asked to take over the bass chair in a Floyd tribute band. I was sent a tape of the material and then set to work learning the stuff. Some hours later if found that I was not retaining any of the pieces and wondered what was going on as I have an excellent musical memory and this I how I've earned my living for years.

I was worried that my usually infallible abilities were failing me so I sat and pondered. Then I got it... it all sounds the same! no wonder it's not going in... it's all the same!

So I phoned the departing bass player at 11.15pm and woke him with the news that I was not going to be doing the gig.

He found a drummer that loved Floyd who also played the bass and sang... and I've heard the recorded results and they are terrific.

The original bass player is now with Rick Wakeman. Not sure if this is a step up musically but, on the old "Wonga" stakes there ......


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USGold
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 2:26 pm    Post subject: Mention of Rick Wakeman Reply with quote

Brings to mind an interesting direction for this or a new thread, namely sharing opinions concerning the 70's bands with the high end engineered sounds--such as early to mid Yes, ELP,Journey,Styxx,that whole genre of smooth,skilled ,well engineered bands whose sound was only possible with the recording techniques that had just become available at that time.
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Tim
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Recorded music is always a balancing act between performance and production. Nobody loved to twidle the knobs more more than Hendrix (listen to Axis or Ladyland) but his playing was still inspirational. Dito The Beatles many a pioneering studio technique but still fantastic as a straight up four-piece. I personally dislike production that swamps the artist's performance, Human Beings play bum-notes every now and again, well thats my excuse anyway.
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lee_UK
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 11:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Mention of Rick Wakeman Reply with quote

USGold wrote:
Brings to mind an interesting direction for this or a new thread, namely sharing opinions concerning the 70's bands with the high end engineered sounds--such as early to mid Yes, ELP,Journey,Styxx,that whole genre of smooth,skilled ,well engineered bands whose sound was only possible with the recording techniques that had just become available at that time.


Im not a lover of ELP, but i can recognise excellent musicians when i hear them. Cant remember which one of ELP was a founder member of King Crimson along with Robert Fripp, but i dont htink that music relied on recording and production tecniques, it was totaly unique, i think Crimson started in 69' and there was nothing before it, you cant trace that music back to blues or classical or jazz, it had no origins.

I used to think Fripp was a pretty cool guy, but then he went and spoiled it all by marrying Toyah, now that really is a Mystery.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 6:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing . FYI, Greg Lake was the original bass player and singer for "Court of the Crimson King". Resident 'poet' Pete Sinfield (I didn't think much of his lyrics) went one step further than Fripp. He later wrote the lyrics for a Buck's Fizz hit; "Land of Make Believe" Smile
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USGold
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 1:29 pm    Post subject: As for Marketing Reply with quote

Wasn't it Floyd themselves that said it all in "Welcome to the machine"?
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lee_UK
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Except in this case 'The Machine' was a cash register.

Kerching!
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USGold
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 3:34 pm    Post subject: cash registar Reply with quote

that would be "money" from dark side
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lee_UK
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Money?? 7/4 time, but the solo is played in 4/4, great album, that one would go in my top 10 of all time.
I love gilmours style he definatly has the 'Touch', Peter Green is another in his catagory.
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