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Question regarding heavier gauges

Hi, I'm currently using a Peavey Predator, and am fairly new to the whole guitar-game. Anyways, I've decided to go to .011 instead of .009. BUT, when I did the change, I noticed that the whole bridge got lifted up after I had tuned up. I didn't see it at first, but just realized that the strings were way higher than I was used to. Needless to say I got scared as hell and tuned down the strings till the bridge rested down again.

So here's my question; is it a bad thing when the bridge is lifted like that? Or can I safely retune my guitar and play it in such a position? If not, what should I do so I can get the guitar tuned properly without the danged bridge getting lifted up?

Any advice would be most appreciated

-Øystein

Re: Question regarding heavier gauges

Heavier strings are far better in every respect if you can get used to the feel of them. Check it out, I'm assuming that your bridge is a sort of Fender-styled tremolo, with a back plate on the back of the guitar. In any event, if you unscrew that back plate, you should see some springs attaching the underside of the tremolo to a metal piece that's screwed into guitar with long screws running parallel to the bpottom of the cavity. If your guitar came with more springs, you should put one or two in (most likely 3 are in now). To do this, unscrew the long screws just far enough to muscle the new springs in, too far and the screws will rip out of the wood. Then tighten the screws back up until the bridge is flush with the top of the body. That's it. If you don't have extra springs, you could probably either find some, or you might be okay with just screwing in the screws in the underside until your bridge is flush.
By the way, after all of this, you might have to change the intonation of your bridge, because thicker strings go over the saddles a little differently. I could help you with that too, if you need it. I hope that this is useful.
-Rick

Thanks! (more inside)

You were right, there were three springs currently in the guitar. As I bought the guitar used I do not have any more, but I will head down to a guitarstore tomorrow and see if I can get something there. I might take you up on that intonation-offer though, but I'm not sure yet :)

Thanks again
-Øystein
np: Carcass - Heartwork

Re: Question regarding heavier gauges

: -I think you need to put more springs in the tremolo.
.11's have a lot more pull on the trem. if that doesn't help, maybe your springs are shot and you need to replace them.

Re: Question regarding heavier gauges

Yeah, getting a couple of extra springs was what I needed. I've got the things in, and fixed the intonation now, so thinks seem in ship-shape form. Thank god it wasn't some big thing that'd be madly hard/impossible to fix :)

-Øystein
np: Anacrusis - Manic Impressions

Changing the fret: need to change whole set or ..............

Changing the fret: do i need to change whole set of fret or just those 2 or 3 frets which need to be change? where can i do it. Afther the changing will the fret board look un natural or leave some defect which make it look not so nice?

Re: Changing the fret: need to change whole set or ..............

If you change one fret,have it grinded down a touch. Don't do this yourself.Have a local guitar tech. do it for you.If done properly,it won't harm your axe.
Good Luck

Joe Satriani does Stairway to Heaven question..

A few years ago I recall hearing on radio a live rendition of Stairway To Heaven with Joe Satriani on Guitar. I can't remember what the gig was about or if it was recorded - would anyone know what & where this gig was and if it is available on CD??

Thanks
Mike

Re: Joe Satriani does Stairway to Heaven question..

there si not a cd.

Re: Joe Satriani does Stairway to Heaven question..

there is not a cd.

Hiwatt 4 12 Combo ???

Anyone ever seen one or know where a guy can get some info. I just picked one up ,not much info Heavy Loud and built like a tank. Would appreciate any info.

nuno bettencourt he-man women eater intro

what is the setup...i cant figure it out?? delay or sumtin'?

http:\\www.extremeband.hpg.com.br

: what is the setup...i cant figure it out?? delay or sumtin'?

Re: nuno bettencourt he-man women eater intro

Please, teach me how to Play Melody in Heman woman Hater,
There's the only one song thta I can't played it.
Please Just gimme the tablature

ok Thank.s

Planet Waves Cables

Does anyone have experience using this product? Do the compressions springs wear out the jacks?

Re: Planet Waves Cables

: Does anyone have experience using this product? Do the compressions springs wear out the jacks?

I have 2 Roscoe Basses, 2 MTD.s Tobias, Pedulla, and Aria, and have had problems with the jacks on 4 of my basses. I'm going back to Monster Cables.

Re: Planet Waves Cables

: Does anyone have experience using this product? Do the compressions springs wear out the jacks?

Fuck you all bloody gringos!

what exactly does "hot" mean in reference to a pickup?

does it mean something's really noisy? like you can barely touch the strings and it'll sound off?

Re: what exactly does "hot" mean in reference to a pickup?

There are two times that you'll hear "hot" in reference to a pickup. The version you mean would be output, which is loudness. Noise doesn't always come with high output, but it usually does. The other time you'd hear it would be in wiring, the hot wire is the lead wire that sends the signal.
Hope this helps,
-Rick

Re: what exactly does "hot" mean in reference to a pickup?

Hot generally refers to the power or loudness of a pickup compared to another one

Re: what exactly does "hot" mean in reference to a pickup?

Hmm. Generally,the term hot means the pickup has very
high output,loudness.The output is measured in ohms,
Strat pickups(single coils) are about 6.5-7 ohms. Humbuckers range from 12-16.5 ohms.Much more powerful.
Remember,louder doesn't always equal good sound.The Seymore SH-5 is about 14.5 ohms and has good tone, especially when cranked.
Good Luck

Tuning

Being new to playing bass, I have a simple question. What equipment is avaiable/recommended for tuning ? I tried by going by "sound by ear", with a cd, but dont feel comfortable with that (or rather my judgement). Would like to visually see using some kind of electric-equipment, to start with.. hell, I don't want to be running down the shops each time i think the srings are out of tune.

I have a Samick bass, been playing a couple months (at home) - read an earlier post here, that this is a common problem with Samick's - is that true.
I play mostly A & E strings, frets 1-4 vibrate a lot, and I dont get a "clean" note (sounds terrible!)

Many thanks for any suggestions - Anders

Re: Tuning

Get yourself a electronic tuner. There are a few types: Some have LED's and some have needles that indicate whether you are in tune or not. You can get them anywhere from $25 up to $50. That will help you until you can get it by ear eventually. It's good to have one around anyway.

As far as not getting clean notes: Everyone has this problem when they begin playing. Make sure you are fretting the note cleanly behind the fret. If you are too far away it wil tend to rattle. Also your bass may not be set up properly. Bring it to a shop and have someone set it up for you to make sure everything is OK. Have them show you what to look for so you can learn how to make these adjustments yourself someday.

Re: Tuning

Sorry, I hit the wrong key. I saw this thread by chance and wanted to offer my opinion on electronic tuners. If you choose to use one as the sole method of tunning, you are risking the chance of having a lazy ear. That is, you won't be able to tune without one. When playing a gig, yes, they are very useful since you can't hear yourself as well. At practice, avoid them. You will learn to tune and that,in itself, requires practice. I use a tuning fork to get started after changing strings, but thats about it. When playing with friends, I let them tune with their tuners and then I tune to them.

Diagonal patching: inputs on valve amps.

What's the principle behind diagonal patching on
a 4 input valve amp (two by two inputs)? Are
there limitations on when and with what it can
be done?

anyone have a marshall JCM2000, DSL401 COMBO?

Hello all ¡
I recently buy a marshall JCM2000, DSL401 combo , 40 watt with four EL84 output valve. I think this amp have a good classic valve tone (similar to A class british amps like VoXAC30) and I like the sound, but for me is a little for play blues or classic rock and not for modern styles (with multieffects processor added as example).
Anyone have an oppinion about the sound of this amp ?

Thanks in advance ¡

The Usual: When was my guitar manufactured...

sorry to post this on such a broad group; the tokai board was more or less dead. anyway, i've had my tokai goldstar sound strat for 8 years now, bought it second hand in august '92 and been extremely satisfied with it. my problem is the usual; i'd like to know a bit more of the history of my faithful workhorse. i haven't found a trace of a serial number on it, and that makes date tracking a bitch. the headstock says: "tokai" (in thick script, not fender-type spaghetti script), "goldstar sound" and "oldies but goldies". it has a one piece narrow fretted alder neck with a skunk stripe and a two piece body, supposedly alder too. no s/n whatsoever, neckplate is plain steel. it has kluson style machine heads and a classic style tremolo (gotoh, in my guess). pickguard is one layer white, a little thicker than in the original fender, i think, finish is classic yellowish two tone sunburst. anybody got an idea how to determine when and where it was manufactured? i already checked the tokai registry but it wasn't of much help.

tia

anton

Anybody knows how to make Delay not cut when changing patches on GT-3?

When changing patches on the GT-3 any delay gets cut..
In the manual says that is possible to accomplish this
with the assing function... but there is no explanation

Re: Anybody knows how to make Delay not cut when changing patches on GT-3?

I have worked with the Zoom GFX8. There is a seamless effect that will accomplish this.

From what I remember, you would have to program the "seamless" effect into the patch that you are going TO and not FROM.

You can get the pdf Zoom manual (pdf) online at:

http://www.samsontech.com/zoom/gfx8.html

Maybe it will give you some clues as to how the Boss unit works. I can't find any Boss or Roland manuals online anywhere.

Re: Anybody knows how to make Delay not cut when changing patches on GT-3?

any ideas yet on Roland MAunals???

im looking for a sde 330 manual, online, downloadable for free. thanks!

: I have worked with the Zoom GFX8. There is a seamless effect that will accomplish this.

: From what I remember, you would have to program the "seamless" effect into the patch that you are going TO and not FROM.

: You can get the pdf Zoom manual (pdf) online at:

: http://www.samsontech.com/zoom/gfx8.html

: Maybe it will give you some clues as to how the Boss unit works. I can't find any Boss or Roland manuals online anywhere.

Pain in my hand

Hi, I bought an acoustic guitar for my daughter and I heard that , anybody can learn to play guitar, so I went on the internet and started to take lessons. I have been practicing every day for around 1 hour a day ( have calluses now) and last Saturday, I couldnt bend my left pointer finger. I woke up the other night in pain and my fingers on my left hand were kind of swollen. The pain in my left pointer finger is still there and wont go away. Now, is this a normal accourance in people who have just started to play guitar, or should i just go to the doctor get checked for athritis or something? If this is normal for new guitar players, I will just wait for the pain to go away, and wont bother the doctor. I havent been to a doctor for ten years, because I have had no reason to, I dont like doctors much. Anyway, I would apppreciate your input, as I dont know any other guitar players, I thought someone from a guitar web site may know something about pain and playing guitars . I sure do enjoy playing , I never thought I could do it and I want my finger to stop hurting so I can resume my practices. Thanks

Re: Pain in my hand

Hmm. I would definatley check with my doctor for this type of injury.Next,I would check with my instructor. It sounds like your left hand positioning maybe the problem.Try to relax your grip(thumb and first finger)
when playing.Also, lay your hand flatter against the neck.The more you relax and play your body should make the needed adjustments.
Get Well

Re: Pain in my hand

: Hmm. I would definatley check with my doctor for this type of injury.Next,I would check with my instructor. It sounds like your left hand positioning maybe the problem.Try to relax your grip(thumb and first finger)
: when playing.Also, lay your hand flatter against the neck.The more you relax and play your body should make the needed adjustments.
: Get Well

: sounds like Tendonitis. GO to a Dr. If he laughs and says something like "tennis elbow," tell him where to shove it. That attitude cost me my right elbow.

Re: Pain in my hand

Hi Claudette!

Playing guitar is much like working out. Even aggressive practice should bring at most just simple fatigue.

Your symptoms are not typical for a beginning guitarist. It is most likely that your pain is due to something other than the guitar practice. Playing guitar might aggrevate the symptoms however.

If you are not fond of doctors and have not seen one in a decade and you are actually considering a visit, that tells me you are seriously concerned about your ailment and should find a doctor. You may consider one who specializes in or has experience with sports injuries and arthritis.

I wish you well.

Re: Pain in my hand

Well you should go to the doc, but he'll probably tell you to rest it. I have a funny feeling I know what it may be, because I get it now and then from Bricklaying. When I get calluses from laying bricks it hurts slightly but I still have to lay (no lay no pay)& what happens is your fingers sweat & soften the calluse, then you fingers get very sore, & your brain (nervous system) reacts by attempting to stop you griping, touching with these finger tips, so you get a jerking action. After this phase your tips of your fingers are just numb but the ligaments & joints are very tight & sore. The easest way to see if you fingers are overworked is to ask yourself if you can still grap hot things that you could do before ie a cup of tea. IF this is the case then I suggest you cut you playing time down untill you heal. Plus check your technique. But most importantly of all warm up before playing. However if you are like me & work a great deal then screw the warm up & do what I do Place Your Hands in Hot Water for 2 mins (I wash the dishes before playing, my wife thinks I do this for her, so shhhh!). I hope this helps, but remember use some common sense & have a word in your doc's ear, plus warm up before playing. I haven't been playing that long, but the one thing I know is that it gets a lot easier, soon you will be graceful on the strings with just enough force to get the notes & your hands will be stronger, more subtle & with not a calluse in sight. So good luck & good health

Re: Pain in my hand

hi, i had a very similar prob and it was all down to the cheap guitar i had bought.
when i checked the tuning as it stated in the book, i did'nt realise that the strings where actually far to tight so i was playing in a higher scale so to speak. this coupled with a high bridge and top end meant i had to really push hard on the frets causing all the symtoms you have stated.
it was only when a freind called round and picked it up to play that i found this out, he retuned it and a did'nt have to press half as hard on the strings.
hope this helps

Standel 12 string acoustic guitar

 Standel 12 string acoustic guitar

This popular thread has been given its own page : Standel 12 string acoustic guitar

takamine acoustic guitars

I need to find the best Takamine acoustic guitar for my boyfriends 30th b-day and I don't know exactly what to get or where to get it. So if someone could help me out and point me in the right direction I would greatly appreciate it!

Thanks

Re: takamine acoustic guitars

Go to musiciansfriend.com and shop around there. You can do a search by manufacturer to look only at Takamine. Gbase.com also has some Taks for you. Sorry, I don't know enough to tell you which one's are the best. Maybe try Takamine's home page to look at what all they offer. Hope this helps at least a little.

Re: takamine acoustic guitars

: Go to musiciansfriend.com and shop around there. You can do a search by manufacturer to look only at Takamine. Gbase.com also has some Taks for you. Sorry, I don't know enough to tell you which one's are the best. Maybe try Takamine's home page to look at what all they offer. Hope this helps at least a little.

Deciding which guitar is "the best" is entirely subjective. Everybody has different fingers, hears slightly differently, and wants different things from a guitar. There is no "best." Sky is the limit on price. Once you pass a $800 threshold, I recommend getting a USA made guitar by Martin, Tacoma, Guild, etc., For a present, you might take your BF to a guitar shop and let him pick the guitar out that "speaks" to him. Otherwise you might buy him something that ends up in the closet forever until he trades it in for a guitar he wants.

Re: takamine acoustic guitars

: : Go to musiciansfriend.com and shop around there. You can do a search by manufacturer to look only at Takamine. Gbase.com also has some Taks for you. Sorry, I don't know enough to tell you which one's are the best. Maybe try Takamine's home page to look at what all they offer. Hope this helps at least a little.

: Deciding which guitar is "the best" is entirely subjective. Everybody has different fingers, hears slightly differently, and wants different things from a guitar. There is no "best." Sky is the limit on price. Once you pass a $800 threshold, I recommend getting a USA made guitar by Martin, Tacoma, Guild, etc., For a present, you might take your BF to a guitar shop and let him pick the guitar out that "speaks" to him. Otherwise you might buy him something that ends up in the closet forever until he trades it in for a guitar he wants.

You can get a Martin DM for $600 with case at those chains - Guitar Center, Mars Music, Sam Ash, etc.,

Re: takamine acoustic guitars

: I need to find the best Takamine acoustic guitar for my boyfriends 30th b-day and I don't know exactly what to get or where to get it. So if someone could help me out and point me in the right direction I would greatly appreciate it!

: Thanks

Im assuming that hes expressed a love for the Taks...so disreguard any info about buying another brand(my personal love is the Taylors).....but Tak makes alot of great guitars....I dont know what your price range is but if at all possible steer away from the tiawan made models(G series and the like....some can be fine instruments but you have to go play quite a few to find the one)........look for a Japan made Tak it cost a bit more but it a quality hand made guitar that will last a life time.....dont waste time going to every store in town just flip open your yellow pages and call around to see who actually has what I told you about and get some prices and dont let them sell it to you at list price they have a lot of room to work with a guitar priced around $1000 might go for $600-$800.....the bigger the city you live in the better the deal....because they know you can go some where else......good luck

Re: takamine acoustic guitars

: I need to find the best Takamine acoustic guitar for my boyfriends 30th b-day and I don't know exactly what to get or where to get it. So if someone could help me out and point me in the right direction I would greatly appreciate it!
: Thanks

Hi Serena: Have you found a guitar for you boyfriend yet. If not write to me I have one for sale and it is a beauty. Cheers Nancy

Re: takamine acoustic guitars

:Sorry-for the women buying her boyfriend a guitar, anything in the g series would probably work. I just bought a FD340SC and it's wonderful. Plus make sure you look around because I live in CT. and there is alot of "overstock sales" and promotions of the sort

Hohner ST Scorpion

How much Is My Hohner Professional ST Scorpion Worth ( any other information will be apprecheated)

Re: Hohner ST Scorpion

: How much Is My Hohner Professional ST Scorpion Worth ( any other information will be apprecheated)

Re: Hohner ST Scorpion

Not too sure. I have one as well, and am looking for parts for it. Does anyone have any ideas?

I know how to play an electric guitar, but when i use a acoustic its alll fucked up, its bad that i

when i use a acoustic my right fingers are too bad, and my sound is very weird but in the electric i dont have problems, is bad that?

Re: I know how to play an electric guitar, but when i use a acoustic its alll fucked up, its bad tha

: when i use a acoustic my right fingers are too bad, and my sound is very weird but in the electric i dont have problems, is bad that?

No it's not bad. The electrics have lighter strings with lighter tension. The acoustics have heavier strings with heavier tension. The "weird" sound may be due to poor intonation on the acoustic. Since electrics have adjustable height and intonation for each string, they have better intonation than an acoustic. I recommend taking your acoustic to a guitar shop to replace the strings with the lightest acoustic strings that dealer happens to sell and to readjust your intonation to those new strings.

Re: I know how to play an electric guitar, but when i use a acoustic its alll fucked up, its bad tha

: when i use a acoustic my right fingers are too bad, and my sound is very weird but in the electric i dont have problems, is bad that?

I can play the best Martin they ever made and make it sound like crap; I just have nothing going on an acoustic. I got over it a long time ago....

Doug

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