: : I like my old Takamine F-400 12-string: sounds OK, has been a good friend for 26 years. WATCH OUT for Guild 12-strings these days: warranty, string-buzzin’, and other problems, often, so proceed with caution. Keep jingle-janglin! : Sorry to differ with you…Guilds (even the Fender ones) are vastly superior instruments over Taks…if you can only afford a Japanese instrument (and no one’s knocking folks with limited budgets), buy an Alvarez…much better instrument than a Tak @ 1/2 the price! *I know what you’re saying…I’m just saying that the new Guilds are of inconsistent quality, so be careful when shopping.