have to agree, the zakk wylde gibson kicks major ass but the other new ones suck in a big way i’ve just bought an ESP ec 1000 its the best guitar i’ve played on !!! : I collect guitars and I’d agree, but I’ve seen about 5 that are the exception to this rule but you really can’t count them there all custom shop with about $2000 weth of up grades out of the shop. personelly I know a few guys that have turned down deals with gibson cause of the workmanship is so bad. Remember Kramer thats why G. Lynch went to E.S.P. and why slash is working with Guild for new stuff , he still plays thouse 72s all the time but nothing new!!