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    • #74958
      lee_UK
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      he’s probably the Sid Philips of the guitar world.

    • #74961
      1bassleft
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      Is that a pentangle or a Clanger? No money for the gig, but all the blue-string-soup you can eat 😆

    • #74992
      lee_UK
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      What the hell happened to this poor sod? what did this guitar ever do to deserve this?
      Nicely described too.
      http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/customised-him-guitar_W0QQitemZ7360016240QQcategoryZ2384QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

    • #74979
      lee_UK
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      Dont start me off on those Satelittes! why did all their models begin with the letters POS?

    • #74993
      1bassleft
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      As I think I’ve mentioned before, that’s what Blackmore used to do at gigs. Sneak off for a “Satellite” just before the ritual smash-up. He didn’t use a branch-shredder. Maybe if he teams up with Slim Shady…

      I’d organized a mult-band gig where the last band on “Keith Moon”ed the drum kit. It wasn’t their drum kit. Much chasing of drummer into, eventually, the toilets by the band that was loaning it out to all the performing bands.

    • #74963
      lee_UK
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      Anybody have a Colombus hanging around? i’d gladly stick that through a townsend set. Id play my my ‘real’ guitar, then quicky grab the POS (Piece of sh*t) and stick it through a shredding machine normaly used for dead branches and shrubs.

    • #74981
      Tim
      Participant

      I once filled a crappy nylon string acoustic with concrete to create an inside out guitary sculpture (we were encouraged to experiment and I don’t need much encouragement anyway!)
      I also trashed an old ‘Audition’ electric which had been given to me, long story but the guitar came off worst in the end 😀

      Tim.

    • #74990
      lee_UK
      Participant

      Ive never smashed one up, but ive seen one or two candidates.

    • #74982
      glw
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      Just out of curiosity, who on this message board has ever smashed a guitar?

      I did once, and to make matters sound worse it wasn’t even my own.

      It was an act of revenge on someone I used to share a house with. We’d all been given our marching orders by the letting agency, but had to clean the house, make repairs where needed, clean the carpets, etc, and this guy did absolutely nothing to help. He just buggered off leaving some of his things out in the garage including his crappy acoustic guitar, presumably intending to collect later. Which was where I found it…

      I’ve got some photos somewhere!

    • #74991
      Tim
      Participant

      [quote=”lee_UK”]Was it ever sacrificed on stage with lighter fuel? i just get the feeling it’s not been, loved.. 😆
      if there was a RSPCG (Royal Society for the Protection of Cruelty to Guitars, for anyone outside the UK) i’d report you..[/quote]

      ‘Prevention’ surely unless you’re a closet guitar sadist 😆

      ps. Woo! I’ve now ‘Got Rhythm’ kinda useful as a bassist!

      EDITED: because I got ‘Rhythm’ wrong 😳

    • #74953
      Tim
      Participant

      Hey don’t blame me! it was created in the height of the grunge era and I’m the 3rd owner…I blame Kurt Cobain (RIP)

    • #74971
      lee_UK
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      Was it ever sacrificed on stage with lighter fuel? i just get the feeling it’s not been, loved.. 😆
      if there was a RSPCG (Royal Society for the Protection of Cruelty to Guitars, for anyone outside the UK) i’d report you..

    • #74964
      Tim
      Participant

      Certainly does, just a pity I don’t…can’t get the hang of those 2 spare strings

    • #74959
      lee_UK
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      Even though it’s been knocked about and abused, then humiliated with black tape and blackboard paint, and then butchered with some kind of carving device, and then had it’s knobs ripped off and replaced with fender ones, even though this guitar has been taken to hell (i was going to say ‘hell and back’ but i dont think it’s come back yet) i bet, despite all that, this SG still ROCKS.. with attitude. 😆

    • #74956
      Tim
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      Golly that was a big picture! should only be 50k though…

      Anyhoo, its an Epi not a Gibson.

    • #74954
      Tim
      Participant

      This seems a good a time as any to post my beloved SG, as mentioned in another thread, my friend decided to carve a lizard type thingy into the body about 1cm deep which I then filled with polyfiller when I aquired the guitar. I do like the black to red paint effect I got but the filler is still very visible.

      #http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b378/subphonic/Lizard.jpg

      note also the interesting knob collection, elecctrical taped Pup covers and ‘scratched’ plate.

      Tim.

      p.s. Woohoo my PC is letting me post…I haven’t been ignoring you all really just technical tish at this end.

    • #74997
      1bassleft
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      The Kahler bass trem (seriously, a friend of mine was selling one) is springless, so yes I assume so. Not such an impossible repair, I don’t see why the repairer got it wrong but decided to go ahead, glue it in and paint over anyway.

    • #74978
      glw
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      I emailed the seller and he said it had been routed for a Kahler trem, so the routing was only behind the bridge area and there was no cavity routed in the back for trem springs (I assume Kahlers don’t require them – I’m not an authority on those nasty 80s style trems).

    • #74998
      1bassleft
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      Yes, that’s an annoying hack, glw. As you say, trem-Strats are absolutely everywhere so why not just buy one? It’s the same as my righty/lefty argument. A pic like that convinces me of the pointlessness of trying to “fill in” the extra pup rout on the Mustang. It’s so difficult to do well, might as well hunt for a used body on the Fleeb. I’ve been looking a long time for a lefty Mustang bass bod to show up, though.

      If anyone sees one (I don’t care if it’s Jap RI, refinished etc, just so long as it’s not hacked) flag it up for me, please.

    • #74996
      glw
      Participant

      Here’s another piece of butchery…

      http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7356704664&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1
      #http://i9.ebayimg.com/01/i/05/14/55/55_1_b.JPG
      #http://i23.ebayimg.com/02/i/05/25/bd/44_1_b.JPG

      It’s not apparent at first sight, but what has happened is that someone has taken a non-trem Strat and routed it for a tremolo (possibly one of those horrible Kahler things). Why spoil a perfectly good hardtail Strat? Hardtail Strats are hard enough to come by without some plonker converting them to a tremolo instrument. This angers me in the same way that Bass dislikes people converting left-handed guitars to right-hand play. (see above, somewhere).

      It seems that the guitar was converted back to hardtail again, but there are still signs of the damage. It’s a pity about the shoddy scratchplate cutting in the bridge area too. However, it could be a nice guitar with some TLC.

    • #74986
      lee_UK
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      he was never a great blues player, and i agree his butchering efforts are a bit absurd, but he did start a lot of great blues players careers, so i suppose we can forgive him, ive never seen a cool photo of him playing a guitar, has anybody?

    • #74975
      glw
      Participant

      #http://www.johnmayall.com/images/jm_bud%2Bdoheny-lg.jpg
      British blues legend John Mayall has been known to butcher, I mean customise, his guitars, such as the famous holey Strat (below right).
      #http://www.dirtynelson.com/linen/115/mayall.jpg

    • #74989
      glw
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    • #74955
      1bassleft
      Participant

      Better still, those Gibson EBO HBs do come up on the FleebUS fairly often and don’t cost a bomb. Stick one of those in and it’ll be “Cream Live” in the bedroom. Just beware of some Dimarzio Model Ones and even the Epi HB masquerading as the genuine. Otherwise, a Gibby pup for under £50 is not a difficult find.

      I agree, the Epi EBO looks a lot classier than the Encore 30″ and not a lot more money either.

      EDIT: There is a Fender Musicmaster bass on FleebUK attracting no bids at £200. I’m not too surprised though. Similar to the Mustang, but not as popular because
      a) It uses a 2-saddle bridge
      b) A single, Telecaster p’up is used (weird, lightweight bass tone).

      If you look at the Musicmaster closely enough, you can count the six polepieces:
      #http://i24.ebayimg.com/03/i/05/19/d7/d1_1_b.JPG
      http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1977-FENDER-MUSICMASTER-BASS_W0QQitemZ7355324811QQcategoryZ4713QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
      There is another one that, apparently, Big Country’s roadies nailed to an amp 😯
      http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vintage-Fender-MUSICMASTER-Bass-ex-Big-Country_W0QQitemZ7356731619QQcategoryZ33039QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Note that this one has had an aftermarket 4-saddle fitted.

      Girlies do like the Musicmaster/Mustang. The small body shape etc makes it very comfortable. I’d consider either fitting a field-type Telepup (eg EMG) or getting the Dremel out and fitting a ’51P type or, indeed, anything that takes the fancy. There’s not much ‘value’ to ruin but these are US Fenders, every bit as well made as their bigger sisters.

    • #74984
      lee_UK
      Participant

      EBO’s look cool, you know how i feel about my SG, i dont care what it sounds like, just something cheap for her to plod along to.

    • #74973
      1bassleft
      Participant

      Oh yeah, here’s one of his that’s been circulating for months at his price. Frankly, I wouldn’t even stump up the p+p money for this ‘modified’ Gibson Ripper bass:

      #http://i4.ebayimg.com/02/i/05/10/c0/20_1_b.JPG
      http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GIBSON-RIPPER-BASS-1976-left-over_W0QQitemZ7355004618QQcategoryZ4713QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

    • #74980
      1bassleft
      Participant

      🙄 Lee, for the nth time, there is a difference between the Fender Mustang and the Sunn (by FMIC) Mustang. Ignoring the Sunn Strat-copy for a moment, the Mustang (both guitar and bass) are great for kids except they are darned expensive. A good, original US Mustang clears $1000 easily (especially with the Shelby “competition” stripes) but the 24″ scale guitar and 30″ scale bass make good student models (their original intention).

      The Japanese reissues are good instruments for around $550, but I don’t see them very often in Blighty for anything like the comparable £ rate. For that age range, I’d look at the 30″ scale basses. Apart from the Mustang bass, there are the Epiphone EB basses, made in Korea. The EB0 sounds nothing like the Gibson, but it’s a start (and sounds better with flats, IMO – roundwounds burn the poor kid’s pads). The cheapest option is the Encore 30″ Precision stylee. These are perfectly OK starter basses and just as easy to set up decently as yer average P.

      With under-10s, I have no shame whatsoever in buying something cheap but serviceable. Apart from the Sunn Mustang £45 guitar, my sprog has decided to take up trumpet. Did I buy a Bach Stradivarius, or even a Yamaha? No chance – a Chinese made Stagg for £59. We’ll see if he keeps it going for more than six months.

      Anyhoo, back to the thread. Anyone seen a hack job while looking for a nice axe? I remember that “Mitten in Deutschland” seller has a few horrors; including a semi-Steinbuggered Gibson.

    • #74987
      lee_UK
      Participant

      Ive got my 9yr old daughter interested in Bass guitar, ive tried her on a yamaha bg model (on loan from my old bass player) but the neck seems a bit too fat for her hands, any suggestions for a small short scale CHEAP bass? do mustang do a chinese reissue thats cheaper than Special fried rice, prawn balls and curry sauce?
      any advice?

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