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  • #21964
    rayc
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    I played a Taylor 414CE last week and fell in love. I have always played dreadnaughts (currently I own a Gibson J-30 that I bought new in 1984). What do people think of Grand Auditorium style guitars as opposed to dreads and are there other models and brands I should be considering? Price is a factor. I would be sacrificing a lot (trading in the Gibson and probably some other stuff too) to get the guitar; but I want a guitar I can enjoy for the rest of my life, one that is good for flat picking leads, fingerpicked and strummed rhythm. It needs to play easily with perfect intonation all the way up the neck. Opinions, recommendations?

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    • #69735
      lee_UK
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      Congrats on the new Taylor Rayc, sounds like a very good one.

    • #69719
      rayc
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      I bought the Taylor 414CE today! I love it. The dealer gave a reasonable trade allowance for the Gibson — a little more than what I was prepared to settle for. I figure that I would have had to adjust the neck and lower the bridge in order to sell it (not something I am prepared to do my self). So I probably lost $100 to $200 US by trading it in. That may sound like a lot but I am so busy and selling is such a hassle (I’ve done it before) that it seems like a good deal to me.

      I am about to exercise just about as much self control as I have ever exercised in my life by going to my corporations class instead of going home to play.

    • #69711
      rayc
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      The Larrivees were beatiful and sounded great but the Taylors were just perfectly suited to my hand. I could just feel my way around the fretboard so much better. The Taylor’s sound was also slightly brighter and just as rich.

      No Ebay for me. I’m just not up for the hassle.

    • #69744
      lee_UK
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      rayc, why not ebay it? Gibsons tend to go well on there, sorry to hear about the Larivee, i felt sure you would like it, must be a very special Taylor you tried out.
      Good luck with the sale.

    • #69737
      rayc
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      I went out to try the Larivees this weekend. They were very nice but the dealer did not have the grand auditorium accoustic/electric cutaway model and the prices were not impressively lower than the Taylor. Also, the dealer did not want to trade for my Gibson (he just thought he could not sell it quickly). I don’t want to sell it myself either. At any rate, I did not play anything I liked better than the Taylor (other than the $5,000 Huss & Dalton that the salesman showed me when he realized that I knew how to play and that he might have pegged me into the wrong price range) .

      So tomorrow I am going to take the Gibson in town with me and see if I can make a deal for the Taylor. Daddy’s has a wider distribution than the shop I was at over the weekend and they specialize in used gear. So I have hopes that I can get a decent deal there.

    • #69724
      lee_UK
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      Rayc, what did you buy?? did you try all those suggested?

    • #69742
      rayc
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      The J-45 was used. I think it was probably a 60s model. It needed a lot of work when I traded it in because the previous owner had been a very heavy strummer and the bridge was coming up.

      I will check out a Larrivee. I might be able to bargain at the suburban stores. And the comparable model to the Taylor lists for considerably lower than the Taylor.

    • #69726
      lee_UK
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      you know the one out of your list i’d go back into a burning house for?

      The J45, its a nice year too, its a pity about the Larrivee though, i think that would have been the guitar you were looking for.

    • #69710
      rayc
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      Wow. Thanks all. Unfortunately for me, the bargain dealers around here (Guitar Center and Daddy’s) don’t seem to deal in Larivees or Seagulls. In fact, I can’t find a place in Boston or Cambridge that carries either line. That means I’ll have to travel to the Suburbs (and not the really close ones either) to check them out. I’ll try to do that within the next couple weeks or so.

      BTW, I have been playing for about 35 years myself. In all that time I have owned 5 steel string accoustics (never 2 at once). In chronological order:
      Fender (I forget) — 1970-72 Beginner Instrument
      Gibson J45 — 1972 – 75
      Guild D25 — 1975 – 77
      Martin D18 — 1977 – 1984
      Gibson J30 — 1984 – present

      All but the Fender were (are?) very nice guitars but they lacked the sweet tone that I am looking for. The Guild was bright sounding but with no subtlety. The Martin was mellow but dark sounding. The Gibsons boomed the way Gibsons do.

    • #69738
      Syl
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      When I bought my 2000 Taylor 812C (added my own Highlander…no holes for electronics), I was choosing between Martin’s 000-28ec, a Gibson Nick Lucas reissue and the Taylor. Taylor won hands down in every category. If you’ve been playing a J30, you will think you’ve died and gone to heaven. Your hands will heal immediately. I also suggest Thomastik-Infeld strings. They feel like silk and last forever. Try their Jazz Swing series. I use both JS110 and JS111. Best of luck!

    • #69702
      lee_UK
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      Seems to be Canadian guitars all the way Rayc, but make sure you check out the Larrivee first, i think you will be pleasantly suprised.

    • #69747
      rcarey
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      If you are considering purchasing a new acoustic guitar and want the best value for your money, take a look at Larrivee and Seagull guitars. I own a Seagull S6+ Spruce with a LR Baggs MicroEQ pickup system which I like and also love the Larrivee OM-03 Orchestra model. In fact I loved the neck (C-shaped) and sound and quality of the Larrivee so much, that I also purchased the P-03 Parlor guitar. Unfortunately, the P-03 has been replaced with the P-05. The Seagull has a flatter and wider neck which I like for alternate tuninings, but all these guitars accomodate flatpicking and fingerpicking. I have been playing for over 40 years and refuse to pay exorbitant prices for lesser quality guitars.

    • #69709
      rayc
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      I owned a Martin D-18 for several years. It was a nice instrument but not bright sounding enough. I will check out some of their Grand Auditorium instruments, although I think they are among Martin’s pricier offerings.

      Thanks for the Larivee suggestion, Lee. I have never known anybody who played one and I have never seen one on sale around here. I’ll have to look for a dealer. Resale is not really a concern — in fact, I’d rather not be tempted to sell it. However I really do want something I can hang on to, that is versatile and that will amplify well, should I need to play out or record with it.

    • #69741
      lee_UK
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      How about Larrivee?
      they do some fantastic sweet sounding guitars for under $1,000.
      Used Gibson/Taylor/Martin are the ones to for if resale is an issue.

    • #69700
      cafimann
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      If price is an issue and you already have a Gibson, then I would suggest a serious look at Martin. They have some amazing models and the prices are pretty good if you shop around.

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