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Posted by Gretchen (from: ) on December 17, 2004 at 05:59:16:
In Reply to: Re: Technique Practice posted by MrByngBell on December 17, 2004 at 01:43:49:: : : I’m having trouble- when I play on the lower part of the fretboard, my pinkie really wants to flair up after I pull it off. Is this a common problem? I feel lke it’s slowing me down by being generally sloppy.
: : : What’s the best way to keep a tight flow when doing drills? What I mean is, how does one effectively keep their fingers hovering low witout straining them?: : Hey guys – I think it’s a common problem. As a bit of an ergonomist, (anatomy & physical science of playing, blah, blah), I personally feel it’s in the wrist as much as in the finger itself. Now somebdy make a joke, but it better be a good one.
: : We all need to relax our wrists. You’re never there, keep working on it. You know about those guitar hand exercise squeeze things. I prefer a soft stress ball, and constant curling 2 pound weights. Little dumbells. Damn, everything I say can be made fun of. But this will stop the pinkie from jumping up on its own, when you want it down on the board, in play.
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Wow…I can’t BELIEVE all the idiotic advice I read in this Forum! lol
: Ok..to start…you practice guitar to get good on the guitar, right? Ok. If you use those stupid guitar hand exercise squeeze pieces of crap, all it will do is make you better at squeezing those guitar hand exercise squeeze thing pieces of crap!!! READ THIS AND TRY TO UNDERSTAND!!!Forearm-curling weights is THE WORST thing you can do for guitar playing!! When playing the guitar, your fingertips should be floating over the fretboard, using very little pressure. That is allowed by nervous “fine-motor control”. Lifting weights “tears” the muscle, and makes it grow. One other thing it does is “de-train” the muscle. Playing guitar is also a “muscle-memory” thing, so you’re screwing yourself there too. So listen people…ya wanna play better guitar? Try practising!!! There’s no fast-tracking way to do it. You won’t become a great hockey player by dressing up with all your pads, skates, sweater and helmet, and sitting of front of the TV watching hockey! There’s NO EASY WAY.
: So…for all of y’all who want a condensed version of this entry here it is: To get good on the guitar, PRACTICE! THAT’S THE ONLY WAY TO GET GOOD ON THE GUITAR. YOU CAN GET GOOD AT SOMETHING ONLY BE DOING IT, AND DOING IT ALOT!! WEIGHT-LIFTING IS DAMAGING TO GUITAR PLAYING! Name one WORLD-CLASS guitarist who has huge forarms from doing forearm curls! Right..you can’t. Most of all use that grey thing in your skull.Dr. Gretchen:
2 pound weights. Talking about ergonomics, not muscle training. Go read your dictionary. It’s about flexibility – more like gymnastics. I got issues with your tone, jerk. Holy F* try getting up on the right side of the bed, use YOUR head! !———————————————————————————–MrByngBell:—-Woah, Princess!!! lol Don’t get your panties in a bunch! To start off, here’s a rebuttal to the boneheaded rubuttal to my rant on guitar technique: ————————————————–LOL! Those guys are technical children! lol!! lol The fact that you even mentioned these guys’ names proves you don’t know what the HELL you’re talking about!! lol “Michael Batio”….should be “Master Batio”. I’ve heard these cats, and I laughed until I cried!!! lol If I played the way they play NOW, when I was 15 years old, I would have quit immediately out of embarrassment!! lol Michael Batio is a cartoon character. Kerry King??…Who? lol What I stated in my previous email it 100% true. I wish is WASN’T, because then I could lift weights to my hearts desire, and still be a hot player. That just ain’t the way it is though, Jenny! Human physiology is the way it is, and you SAYING it ain’t sure as Hell ain’t gonna change it. So relax, and go back to your playing along with your Steve Lukather instructional vidoes, and leave the real playing to us. ——- Regarding the “you’re a douche” comment…thanks! lol At least you spelled it “you’re” instead of “yore” or “your”, which is the way I’d expect you to. ——————Ok…back to Dr. Gretchen.—— I’ve been playing for 45 years (40 professionally), and I’ve studied Medicine, and have played Semi-Pro Soccer, so I know a bit of what I’m talking about, ok? I’ve likely FORGOTTEN more words than you’ll ever know, so I don’t NEED to read a dictionary. I suggest YOU read one though. It serves no purpose to piss off on someone who’s trying to help you. You don’t have to listen to me when I tell you that ANY weight lifting involving the arms is bad for guitar-technique. “WORLD-CLASS” guitar technique I should have said. I should have known that that right there would rule you and all these other guys out. Another thing, Dr. Gretchen…Ergonomics involve muscles, whether you like it or not. If you move, a muscle caused it. Flexibility is primarily not a function of muscles…it’s range-of-motion, which has to do with joints, how far they move from flexion to extension, rotate, glide, etc etc etc. Muscles only contract to move the bones they articulate with closer together, is all. If you have issues with my tone, I suggest you ask your Dr. to prescribe you some Amitryptaline, 50mg o.p., o.d, for the first week, b.i.d. for the second week, and t.i.d for the third week. My tone was one of exaspiration….I see so much bullsh*t regarding playing guitar, technique, etc etc ec, that I JUST HAD to say something. I was laughing the whole time I typed it out! lol You however, sounded genuinely pissed off, so meds are the only thing that will help you now. I also recommend that you stop playing guitar, and also stop spreading bullsh*t about guitar, guitar playing, guitar technique, and ANYTHING about guitar! lol There aren’t enough good players out there…so giving sh*tty advice to wannabees will only make things worse. So…how long have you been playing guitar, Dr. Gretchen? —————————————————Believe who you want. Don’t believe me…that’s your right. Just don’t tell someone to do something that’s wrong and detrimental to their playing. These are guys, who even though aren’t pros, or just aren’t very good players…derive a great deal of pleasure from playing guitar. We, as good members of society, mustn’t give crappy advice to these guys. Bad advice could cause ALL KINDS of arms/hand problems.
Remember….”Do No Harm”.Byng Bell
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