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  • #24761
    StarcasterMan
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    Alright… I’m comin up on playin guitar for about 4 and I think I may be ready for a guitar that will last and make me happy for EVER!!!!!!!!!!! I just don’t think that playind for four year and the best guitar I’ve owned was a Dean Vendetta XMS or XM somethin… mixes well. I’m thinking of a Gibson… but want to be cost effective and I don’t have the $ for a nice Les Paul or Firebird, so what should I get. Oh and can you change your username because I’m sick of bein called Starcaster man… It cramps my style…although the level of style I posses is uncertain wink

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    • #78356
      StarcasterMan
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      Hey, I was on my favorite band, Kamelot, website, and on Thomas Youngblood’s bio, I saw that he’d plays an ESP guitar, and me not knowing that brand, I looked it up. I’m in love. If you’ve ever played the Limited ESP Ax-50, please tell me how it is ‘cuz I’ve scrapped my idea for the Firebird.

    • #127099
      StarcasterMan
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      Ya, the Gibson’s are cool but on some of the LP’s, the neck feels soooooo small width wise. Also, the bodys are really tiny, but they weigh SOOOOOOOOOOO much. I like the SG’s, but they are too widely copied, so the flashy-“I gotta Gibson” effect is kinda tuned down…way down. I really like the Firebirds, but I just can’t find one that doesn’t have that worn cherry look, I like the vintage sunburst. While I’m on, could you tell me if this was a fair traid, or if it’s better for me or the guy I traded with.
      My Gibson/Baldwin (very used with some minor problems) for his Dean Vendetta (I think XMS with the non-flashy body) and a Vox Valvetronics 30-watt amp. ! ? ! ? ! ? ! idea arrow wink roll twisted evil x P oops cry lol 8) ? shock D ) ( o

    • #127100
      lee_UK
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      Ive never played one, BUT, they are supposed to be excellent provided you get the LTD edition model, there are still a few out there but they have now stopped making it. I was thinking of buying one myself, but then i started looking at Gibson, lots more money, but i do like Gibson, i always found the main difference between Epi and Gibson are the necks, the Gibsons always feel better to me.

    • #127098
      StarcasterMan
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      OK… but you guys didn’t answer my question… what do you guys think of the Epiphone Firebirds?

    • #78339
      1bassleft
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      [quote]look around for the Japanese made Yamahas and Tokais [/quote]

      Yup, I said it. IIRC, the Tokai “Love Rock” sells for less in the US than in Britain at the moment, as Japanese 70s copies are not so picked up on over there just yet.

    • #78312
      lee_UK
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      Has anyone mentioned Tokai? Burny? Greco? Orville? they do some great 70’s and 80’s Gibson copies and they will increase in value, i have a Tokai Reborn, it’s a 1979 model, quite rare, i bought it on ebay 3 or 4 yrs ago for £427, ive seen the same guitar go on ebay 2 months back for nearly a thousand.
      It sounds and looks like a Gibson too.

    • #78262
      Tim
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      [quote=”lee_UK”]there is no ‘initial plummet’ on an SG..[/quote]

      True…my drunken generalising…however I really wouldn’t want a guitar that I was scared to scratch/buckel-rash/fill with whiskey etc etc…tho maybe says more about me 😳

    • #127097
      1bassleft
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      Used, I would definitely (and always have) hunt the Yamaha SG double-cutaways made in Japan in the 70s. Unfortunately, the chances of catching one for sub $600 are Butkus, at least on eBay. The classified ads are a hope. Also, a guitarist I worked with in the mid 80s to early 90s had an old Gibson Firebird and it was a beautiful looking and sounding instrument. Again, though, not something I’d expect to be selling for that sort of money.

    • #127096
      lee_UK
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      there is no ‘initial plummet’ on an SG..

    • #127095
      Tim
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      Said this sooo many times but I would always buy instruments second hand…more trying required and probably a longer wait but you know what you’re going to end up with when you do try them and you avoid the initial plumet in value of most instruments.

    • #127094
      vitaminE
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      Hey, doesn’t Rick Olack play a Fender Starcaster? Not enough knobs for my tastes.

    • #78115
      glw
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      Oh, when you said Starcaster I thought you meant one of these cool guitars:

      #http://www.hothouse.net.au/hhgtrs/starcaster.jpg

      not the recent cheap Strat knockoff that has the same name.

    • #127093
      StarcasterMan
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      Thanks, but I’m looking for something a little more…standout-ish. Something easily recognizable but nothing too flashy,not like Prince’s guitar. I also think used is the path is better for me because A. it’s cheaper B. the guitar is probably brocken in, without that wierd new guitar string feel. What do you think about a used Les Paul or Firebird, preferably Gibson, but Epiphone is also nice. Oh, does Gibson even make the Firebirds anymore, ‘cuz I didn’t see it on thier website.

    • #78136
      1bassleft
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      I did a comparison of $550-$600 guitars on MF that you could have a look at:

      http://www.musiciansfriend.com/compare?base_pid=515721&base_pid=516660&base_pid=511294&base_pid=518145&base_pid=518341&base_pid=515619&base_pid=515526&base_pid=512591&base_pid=519370&base_pid=519375

      don’t worry about some of them having a lot of “n/a”, you can click on the guitar to get a fuller descn. I threw in some leftfield stuff along with the obvious Epiphone and Fender Mex and tried to look for stuff with HSS or coiltaps or something else that helps the versatility, seeing as you play a lot of different genres.

      If you can throw out the styles that don’t float your boat, you might get more useful ops on those that remain from the better guitarists (than me, for sure) here.

    • #78067
      lee_UK
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      They do a ltd edition Epi firebird studio that is supposed to be very good, didn’t youngwasp buy one??

    • #78164
      StarcasterMan
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      Oh the type of music I play is quite varried. I play metal, soft rock, hard rock, prog, “classic” (meaning the BEST) rock…everything basically. Also, if the guitar had those awesome Gibson… lites I think for strings… that would be a HUGE plus.

    • #127092
      StarcasterMan
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      Thanks Lee,but I’m really not up for buying and SG because there are just too many faux SG’s out there and you really can’t be 100% sure it’s a genuine Gibson unles you basically inspect it (more or less the head ) ) And a Les Paul is a little too pricey for my blood (although I would love a ’59 Les Paul) I also like the Epiphone Les Pauls but they are so small they make my feel like I’m playing with a “Little Rocker” set from Fisher Price lol .What do you guys think of the Epiphone Fire bird? Oh and as somebady asked, my price range is centered at no more than $600 (so lasting a good amount of time might be a good trait of the guitar).

    • #78081
      lee_UK
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      I can help, what you need is a Gibson standard SG, they are incredible, ive been playing guitar for 30 yrs, i have, Gibson SG, a Les Paul Standard, a Gibson ES335, a Tokai Reborn (1979 model) Tokai LP Special with P90’s, Fenders from all walks of life and the guitar i always take out and gig is the SG, its a stock bog standard model, if you can live without the binding then go for a SG Special, don’t get the faded models, go for a solid colour or Cherry, standard or special.
      Problem sorted.

    • #78119
      1bassleft
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      Do you prefer the Gibson humbuckers/set neck style over the Fender single coil/bolt-on neck style? If a Gibson is too expensive and an Epiphone too cheap, you could look around for the Japanese made Yamahas and Tokais (not the Korean bolt-on cheapies). They’re not bargains anymore but they are great guitars and have kudos.

    • #127091
      glw
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      [quote=”StarcasterMan”]Hey, is it possible to help me out here. There’s like 20 views with only my submitions. HELP ME OUT.

      P.S. When I say I’ve been playing for four years in the write up, then say in my little writey-thingey description I’ve been playin for 2 years, I mean 2 years of incredibly serious (I’m in 2 bands) and 2 years of just jammin.[/quote]

      Blimey, guv!

      You must have some idea of what you’re looking for. C’mon, you don’t need us to tel you what to buy.

    • #78124
      Michael
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      Give us a $ amount to work with and the kind of music your into playing.

      Can’t change username sorry.

    • #127090
      StarcasterMan
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      Hey, is it possible to help me out here. There’s like 20 views with only my submitions. HELP ME OUT.

      P.S. When I say I’ve been playing for four years in the write up, then say in my little writey-thingey description I’ve been playin for 2 years, I mean 2 years of incredibly serious (I’m in 2 bands) and 2 years of just jammin.

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