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i tend to go for heavier riffs
e.g.
the verse riff in metallica’s broken, beat & scarred springs to mind 😀
but best of all time?
hendrix’s wah intro for voodoo chile
rehashing the board
going with two different loops using a Radial loop selector
upgraded power supply under construction
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/rewindspline/DSC02982.jpg
all valid points 1bass
but it’s true that a long cheap cable will steal some top end, which may be a positive if the tone is just a bit too bright!
capacitance is a real world effect but it certainly isn’t a major player in the sound stakes – connector quality is more important imo
nice boards there!
i would like to comment on the mesa v-twin pedal seeing as i have one and a 3-channel dual rectifier head too
the pedal on its own is good (even if the heavy distortion is a little dark and one dimensional)
however i absolutely love it in combination with the behringer di with speaker simulation – there is a soundbyte here http://www.myspace.com/unamis
that tone is simply the v-twin through the di into protools – no tweaking
unfortunately the di is no longer in production, it took me ages of searching and phone calls to get 2 brand new ones…
i will save my comments on the rectifier head for another discussion 😀
[quote=”lee_UK”]Guitar leads use OFC oxygen free copper cable, mains lead is very poor quality. And coax isnt going to be anywhere near the quality of a good OFC guitar cable.
Im not sold on the Coaxial TV cable idea, you might start picking up BBC1 or worse still TV-Gold.
Does anyone else use this kind of cable? or has anyone else heard of using this kind of cable?
You obviously dont connect guitar cables from your head to cab because this is a voltage being handled and not a signal, lots of people make the mistake of using guitar cable, and like you say it’s not designed for this kind of use, and can fail, and if you lose the connection between your head and cab then it could also damage the output transformer. which can be very costly.[/quote]Dude if your cable has a signal core and a ground shield it is coax – whether it’s branded OFC or whether it’s used for cable tv or antennae or industrial ethernet communications or instrument signal. The defining factors are the capacitance and characteristic impedance – some importance can be placed on physical flexibility for musicians.
OFC is a gimmicky title used to sell more – the oxygen content of the copper in different brands of cable is not going to vary enough to affect your signal – do you think a cable manufacturer has a copper refinery and can develop it’s own type of copper? No, they give their copper supplier a specification.
Picking up BBC or whatever will not occur – coax is used to deliver the signal from an antenna to the reciever, coax itself is not a very good antenna. Amps have been known to pickup radio though!
The amplifier and the guitar pickup both output a voltage – the difference is the amp voltage will be in the hundred’s while the pickup voltage will be in the thousandth’s. That’s basically the difference between power and signal – hence the term power amp. You need a power amp to produce enough voltage across a speaker to move it and create sound – obviously the amp power output is related to the speaker/s.
Because the power signal to the speakers is so large it doesn’t suffer from interference or losses like a tiny guitar signal does. That’s why the signal from a guitar pickup needs to be protected – interference signals can create more voltage in a cable than the guitar pickup and the guitar signal can be lost. Hence shielded cable i.e. coaxial cable.
You can’t use instrument cable to connect to your amp head because of the current going through it and the cable resistance. Current handling capacity of speaker lead is much higher than instrument – have a look at a subwoofer installation – it will use thick cable.
summary – guitar lead is coax! 😆
all guitar leads are coax… 😀
same stuff as TV antenna, just lesser quality (generally)
as opposed to power cable like speaked lead which is two core
that’s why you can’t use a guitar cable to connect your head to your cabinet – shielded cable doesn’t handle high power
that’s exactly what i use the tube DI for – works a treat
you can go nuts with cable – if you have a trebly spiky guitar you can smooth it out by using the longest and cheapest cable you can find
coaxial cable is like a capacitor (low pass filter) i.e. as the frequency increases the impedance to ground decreases, therefore the high frequencies go straight to ground and the low frequencies go through to the amp – capacitance increases with length
i use high bandwidth cable tv coax – it is the lowest capacitance cable you can buy and make my own leads, makes a huge difference
i also use a heavy mahogany body guitar with high output pickups through a mesa dual rectifier 😀
[quote=”lee_UK”]Can you give a URL to that Behringer pedal? ive got a PB100 booster with gain – treble – bass controls but no splitter like you said? the one i have is here:
http://www.behringer.com/PB100/index.cfm?lang=ENG
i currently use it as a ‘solo’ pedal, does a very nice job too. and at £12.50p new im not complaining.[/quote]http://www.behringer.com/02_products/audio_index.cfm?lang=ENG
check out the MIC100, that’s what i have
it’s a copy of the A.R.T. gear which now come with USB – direct recording into the computer with tube tone!
http://www.artproaudio.com/default.asp?p_id=4
[quote=”vitaminE”]Great post rewindspline – you’ve given me a case of pedal envy! I am, however, questioning the lack of ground-in beer dirt on your gear… :wink:[/quote]
thanks mate – rum doesn’t stain so bad…. 😆
you have more pedals than i do!
people rant about what order the pedals go in but at the end of the day it all comes down to what you like yourself – why play somebody elses setup?
i think you would benefit from a DI at the start, between the A/B switch and the morley wah.
there is a behringer tube pre amp with output level and gain controls that is ridiculously cheap – it also acts as a splitter so one output can go to a tuner outside of the loop. put this at the start of your effects and you will notice a huge difference in your final sound
power supply is also critical to tone – there are several devices out there that cater for multiple pedal setups – i made my own 7 output power supply but you can buy things like the voodoo labs pedal power 2, juicebox etc
*that’s just my home recording setup, half of that shit disappears for stage
stage is just guitar, pedalboard, dual rectifier 😀
[quote=”lee_UK”]Have you ever tried using an A/B box at the front of the chain? to see what the actual difference is in loss of ‘Clean’ guitar tone? i mean whats the difference between you going through your rig with everything on bypass, and the tone going straight to the amp?
I have a setup that uses 10 pedals in a chain, and i do notice a bit of tone loss between bypass and straight to the amp, but i have a home made A/B box to switch, i notice yours doesnt. And the worse offender for me was a noise supressor which i notice you have.
Worse pedals in the world for tone loss, Danelctro, those mini pedals! my god they suck the tone right out of your guitar and leave it lifeless, like a well sucked ice lolly (popsicle) all ice no flavour!.[/quote]usually the tone is sucked out because of the loading on the pickups – the guitar signal trying to drive all the pedals, especially old style pedals like the wah
if you buffer the signal first with an active DI it reduces the …effect… 😀 of the effects on the guitar signal dramatically
i go one step further and use a tube DI with output level adjustment – this is basically a pre amp that drives the pedals – works great, especially when you can adjust the output level to suit the pedals, they work much better with a decent signal, and i can use whatever length guitar cable i like
Gordy: the trick is to use them sparingly, not all at once!
where’s the rest of the rigs? has to be some good ones out there!
i found the solution
i bought a A.R.T. DI/O a/d converter tube DI that has SPDIF
it is half the price of the rackmount version called the DSP II, but it’s two channels
yay for DI’s!
